Stop arguing with incels

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PatheticLoser
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Stop arguing with incels

Post by PatheticLoser » May 14th, 2019, 5:25 am

Many people who identity as incel are strongly affected by what they see as a disparity in society. They dismiss opposing arguments as an abstraction that is a byproduct of the terrors of this society, an obstacle to their well being, and to some extent a soothing buffer against a harsh reality. To them, "bluepill" or "low iq" logic is like an opioid and part of the true cause of their affliction.
'blackpill" or "high iq" arguments, though provocative and somewhat insightful, are severely limited in their perspectives. Perhaps sometimes people do act in a certain way in certain situations, but the human experience is so much more. In fact, I have never seen someone who considers themselves an incel try to define "bluepill" logic, rather they only try to explain it away. This does not diminish the relevance of arguments opposing "blackpill", or an understanding of the big picture of the role human nature plays in the lives of individuals and society.
If you are reading this and you consider yourself incel, you can better your argument by widening your vantage point and creating a fairer, more accurate depiction considering the great variety of people and life's challenges presented to them.
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tremor
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Re: Stop arguing with incels

Post by tremor » May 14th, 2019, 7:51 am

No such thing as "bluepill logic". Bluepillers refer to norman anecdotes and claim it applies to ugly subhumans like us.

In an argument, bluepill is just a PC form of the blackpill in terms of real-life consequences. The only difference is that bluepilled formulations imply that one should obey, become a soy cuck and be grateful for his inceldom. Basically, bluepill whiteknights come off as oppressors and bullies, who, just like real ones try to force incels to stfu, be invisible and conform, which, as you noted, is partially what causes the problem.

It all boils down to interpretation and incels interpret on the basis of their experience. Normans never get it, they are all about form and never about substance. It would be OK for a normie to say that "modern wymyn have high standards", but if an incel says that "foids only want Chad", then he's a terrorist and should be put on a watchlist.

In short, bluepill is more of an oppression tool than a set of ideas. Blackpill/redpill is a set of ideas, other things are about incels acting rough because of feeling cornered and normans invading incel safe spaces because "that'll show them", it's not some ideological war actually.
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Re: Stop arguing with incels

Post by Nostalgicel » May 14th, 2019, 8:09 am

tremor wrote:
May 14th, 2019, 7:51 am
No such thing as "bluepill logic". Bluepillers refer to norman anecdotes and claim it applies to ugly subhumans like us.

In an argument, bluepill is just a PC form of the blackpill in terms of real-life consequences. The only difference is that bluepilled formulations imply that one should obey, become a soy cuck and be grateful for his inceldom. Basically, bluepill whiteknights come off as oppressors and bullies, who, just like real ones try to force incels to stfu, be invisible and conform, which, as you noted, is partially what causes the problem.

It all boils down to interpretation and incels interpret on the basis of their experience. Normans never get it, they are all about form and never about substance. It would be OK for a normie to say that "modern wymyn have high standards", but if an incel says that "foids only want Chad", then he's a terrorist and should be put on a watchlist.

In short, bluepill is more of an oppression tool than a set of ideas. Blackpill/redpill is a set of ideas, other things are about incels acting rough because of feeling cornered and normans invading incel safe spaces because "that'll show them", it's not some ideological war actually.
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