Wisdom for incels,and insight for blue pillers

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
So Ive tried many forms of sales and telemarketing...Heres the deal.. I think being a complete incel is RELATED to those "professions"..
Its literally next to IMPOSSIBLE to "learn" to be a good telemarketer... You know within the first few days, sometimes the first few hours, if you've got the "knack" for it or not... If you do, you will start getting sales pretty fast.. If you dont, doesnt matter how well you memorize the spiel, or how precisely you read the script, you will NEVER have that sales quality, doesnt matter how much you work at it! If you EVER somehow do get that one sale, out of sheer crazy luck, it will probably never happen again!
Attracting girls is just like that! Either you have the "knack" from your teenage years you will know you have it, or you dont... And regardless of what red or blue pillers try to tell you, you can never "get it", not in 100 years... Makes no difference how many showers you take, what cologne you are wearing, how nice your clothes are, how many jokes you can remember, you will NEVER have the knack of it... because its NOT an ability you can LEARN!! It is JUST who you are!! Thats my 2 cents after 48 years of inceldom, and observing the joke of humanity! :cool:
 

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
To be honest, my theory is that it IS psychic(as well as looks), or even pheromone based perhaps, but no scientist has ever investigated it properly to find out... Personally I KNOW I wont win any modelling contests, but I dont believe Im an ogre either.... Ive always thought my look was UNIQUE, but since women have zero attraction to me, the same end results...
 

nearcel/ volcel

STRANGE UNCLE
So Ive tried many forms of sales and telemarketing...Heres the deal.. I think being a complete incel is RELATED to those "professions"..
Its literally next to IMPOSSIBLE to "learn" to be a good telemarketer... You know within the first few days, sometimes the first few hours, if you've got the "knack" for it or not... If you do, you will start getting sales pretty fast.. If you dont, doesnt matter how well you memorize the spiel, or how precisely you read the script, you will NEVER have that sales quality, doesnt matter how much you work at it! If you EVER somehow do get that one sale, out of sheer crazy luck, it will probably never happen again!
Attracting girls is just like that! Either you have the "knack" from your teenage years you will know you have it, or you dont... And regardless of what red or blue pillers try to tell you, you can never "get it", not in 100 years... Makes no difference how many showers you take, what cologne you are wearing, how nice your clothes are, how many jokes you can remember, you will NEVER have the knack of it... because its NOT an ability you can LEARN!! It is JUST who you are!! Thats my 2 cents after 48 years of inceldom, and observing the joke of humanity! :cool:
Agree! Although if you look good, then you don't need the "knack."
 

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
Lordgoro said:
So Ive tried many forms of sales and telemarketing...Heres the deal.. I think being a complete incel is RELATED to those "professions"..
Its literally next to IMPOSSIBLE to "learn" to be a good telemarketer... You know within the first few days, sometimes the first few hours, if you've got the "knack" for it or not... If you do, you will start getting sales pretty fast.. If you dont, doesnt matter how well you memorize the spiel, or how precisely you read the script, you will NEVER have that sales quality, doesnt matter how much you work at it! If you EVER somehow do get that one sale, out of sheer crazy luck, it will probably never happen again!
Attracting girls is just like that! Either you have the "knack" from your teenage years you will know you have it, or you dont... And regardless of what red or blue pillers try to tell you, you can never "get it", not in 100 years... Makes no difference how many showers you take, what cologne you are wearing, how nice your clothes are, how many jokes you can remember, you will NEVER have the knack of it... because its NOT an ability you can LEARN!! It is JUST who you are!! Thats my 2 cents after 48 years of inceldom, and observing the joke of humanity! :cool:
Agree! Although if you look good, then you don't need the "knack."
Well on the PHONE you do(ergo, telemarketing jobs, etc..)
 

nearcel/ volcel

STRANGE UNCLE
Yes! You certainly need phone skills for telemarketing sales etc.

Now, here's the thing i've noticed about guys who are "slick talkers," "Natural salesmen", "good at sales types:"

They also happen to be ok to good looking.

Now, is this because biologically/genetically, talkativeness/social ability/outgoing-ness GOES with better looks?

-OR-

Or is it because of your looks, people were always outgoing and talkative to you, thus this "opened you up" naturally from a young age and you developed good social skills from that?

Is it nature or nurture? Is it biological or environmental? Or both?

i haven't seen too many good sales types that weren't at least average to good looking.

(note: i don't like to use the term "ugly;" i will probably clarify about this in other threads)
 

Weeb

Femoid
S
Yes! You certainly need phone skills for telemarketing sales etc.

Now, here's the thing i've noticed about guys who are "slick talkers," "Natural salesmen", "good at sales types:"

They also happen to be ok to good looking.

Now, is this because biologically/genetically, talkativeness/social ability/outgoing-ness GOES with better looks?

-OR-

Or is it because of your looks, people were always outgoing and talkative to you, thus this "opened you up" naturally from a young age and you developed good social skills from that?

Is it nature or nurture? Is it biological or environmental? Or both?

i haven't seen too many good sales types that weren't at least average to good looking.

(note: i don't like to use the term "ugly;" i will probably clarify about this in other threads)
Tbh I've noticed that too. Second one probably. I think there's this belief in Asian cultures, if I'm not mistaken, that good-looking people are more likely to be 'nicer' and socially well-adjusted because they are shown more kindness growing up due to their looks. I don't know if it's backed up by science or not, but it makes sense.
 

nearcel/ volcel

STRANGE UNCLE
i think being leaning towards better looking doesn't hurt your confidence at least........

If people are more outgoing towards you, you tend to be more outgoing with people and so on and so on and it's a cycle that feeds itself.....
 

Fiesta Payasos

Doomed | Honkpill
Yes! You certainly need phone skills for telemarketing sales etc.

Now, here's the thing i've noticed about guys who are "slick talkers," "Natural salesmen", "good at sales types:"

They also happen to be ok to good looking.

Now, is this because biologically/genetically, talkativeness/social ability/outgoing-ness GOES with better looks?

-OR-

Or is it because of your looks, people were always outgoing and talkative to you, thus this "opened you up" naturally from a young age and you developed good social skills from that?

Is it nature or nurture? Is it biological or environmental? Or both?

i haven't seen too many good sales types that weren't at least average to good looking.

(note: i don't like to use the term "ugly;" i will probably clarify about this in other threads)
Looks reinforce personality. The way you look marks the way you get treated and feel about yourself. And I'm not talking only about being ugly or handsome. Some people look more mature, more confident, more strong... Notice that those are just looks. But foids assume it as facts.
 
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