Why Incels must become socialists and drop conservative values

Now Enlightened

Incels.Net Regular
Now Enlightened said:
bcroger2 said:
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.

Most incels here don't support Trump. I'm not even in your country. Incels are worldwide...

But SOCIALISM is COPE especially when it comes to courtship and dating.

People really expect we'll be treated equally in a socialist world. Lookism won't matter. There will be equality, a life where Chad and ricecell are now equal. Biggest BULLSHIT.
In a world where two men earn equal salary, one man will still be taller and better looking. He will still have more popularity.

Free college, free healthcare and paid leave all don't mean shit if you can't get laid. People don't go to college to learn Algebra.


Cope harder, boyos

*I agree with changing our logo. The media demonize us. We are not all murderers here.

Do you think that everything is about sex? Should all men who can’t get laid kill themselves in your view?
This is an incel forum. What do you expect to get here? Go back to Twitter and stay triggered there. That is where liberals are at.

I understand why incels becomes leftie and join those feminists. They settle for small compliments from these women.
Saw a post there that said being called a simp is a badge of honor and will donate half of his salary to women. You're certainly one of those people...You promote socialism and realize you get attention so now you keep doing it thus feeding your internal need.

It's okay if you're happy to settle in that place. I'm happy for you too. You never get validation from women and now you do. Congratulations. It may even be your way to ascension. Better.

But if you're not aware those women will not sleep with you then that is a tragedy. Just keep in mind the end of the line and what you're trying to achieve.
 

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
bcroger2 said:
Now Enlightened said:
Most incels here don't support Trump. I'm not even in your country. Incels are worldwide...

But SOCIALISM is COPE especially when it comes to courtship and dating.

People really expect we'll be treated equally in a socialist world. Lookism won't matter. There will be equality, a life where Chad and ricecell are now equal. Biggest BULLSHIT.
In a world where two men earn equal salary, one man will still be taller and better looking. He will still have more popularity.

Free college, free healthcare and paid leave all don't mean shit if you can't get laid. People don't go to college to learn Algebra.


Cope harder, boyos

*I agree with changing our logo. The media demonize us. We are not all murderers here.

Do you think that everything is about sex? Should all men who can’t get laid kill themselves in your view?
This is an incel forum. What do you expect to get here? Go back to Twitter and stay triggered there. That is where liberals are at.

I understand why incels becomes leftie and join those feminists. They settle for small compliments from these women.
Saw a post there that said being called a simp is a badge of honor and will donate half of his salary to women. You're certainly one of those people...You promote socialism and realize you get attention so now you keep doing it thus feeding your internal need.

It's okay if you're happy to settle in that place. I'm happy for you too. You never get validation from women and now you do. Congratulations. It may even be your way to ascension. Better.

But if you're not aware those women will not sleep with you then that is a tragedy. Just keep in mind the end of the line and what you're trying to achieve.
I hate feminism as much as much as anyone else, but I don’t vote based of sex. I vote based of economic policy. I don’t think that rich Chads should have tax cuts while wagecuck incels work out asses off.

And don’t think that alt/right women love incels or Republicans support our cause. The most rude foid I’ve met was a Trump supporter. If anything , right wing women hate us more than left wing women ( who in many cases fuck niggers and deadbeats) Bodybuilding.com is a hot bed of right wingism, and they hate incels as much as Reddit users.

If you think that alt-right , barbies would date you, then you are wrong. I honestly think if anything, left wing women have lower standards; but I don’t vote based off sex.
 

TheRiddler

Incels.net Super Villian
So you think we need to be progressive and left-wing? Who was it that has brought the Western world to the state it is in today? Who was it whose policies and policy implications have resulted in:
- such rampant inflation men cannot buy a house at a young age, and are financially insecure
- the sexual revolution, where courtship went from being decent and polite based on personality, to bar night hookups and swipe left swipe right hookups based on looks only
- mass immigration resulting in a lack of identity amongst Western men, with no shared values or culture
- the demonisation of men in all institutions with 3rd wave feminism. The idea of male privilege, so our complaints will never be heard again. In fact, this one alone is 90% of our problems. Because of the left, anything you want to change about society will be laughed off, as a 'straight white male'.
- mass censorship of opinion, to the point where just a couple of weeks ago they were talking about designating YOU, the Riddler, a terrorist. Yeh good luck expressing your grievances with society mate, you potential murderer.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people through starvation, genocide(the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, and the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, Nazi's were both socialists) and civil war. In every country socialism has been tried in, it has resulted in misery. Not ONE country is free and prosperous whilst socialist- i challenge you to name one.
Conservatives have made mistakes, but those mistakes have only ever been a failure to live up to our values, like economic freedom and self-determination regardless of who you are. The left's mistakes are central to their ideology: the awfulness which has always resulted is endemic to their ideas, not a failure to live up to them.
Well I am much older than you and remember how things worked before the conservatives took over. It wasn't as bad as what it is now.... the changing dynamics of dating haven't resulted from politics its resulted from natural causes and evolutions of technology. What have the conservatives done for people like you and me? Nothing. Not saying Labour wouldnt' call us terrorists too they probably would... but wokeism is the door way to freeing many of us.

In my opinion INCELDOM should never have been mostly conservative..it makes me wonder why most incels are conservatives.. almost like changing gender dynamics and a inability to accept it is what causes the hate. Instead of trying to put things back to where they were (religious institutions, old values) we should instead go for true equality and a culture of real acceptance. WOKEISM is the way forward. Tbh at this point not bothered about changing opinions I know this is the way to go.

Instead of being an aggressor its OK to be a victim. Each of us right now are victims. Embrace Wokeism. I know most incels wont and thats OK too. Its just women for me are not the real enemy, i know who the real enemy is now.
 
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bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
UniCel said:
So you think we need to be progressive and left-wing? Who was it that has brought the Western world to the state it is in today? Who was it whose policies and policy implications have resulted in:
- such rampant inflation men cannot buy a house at a young age, and are financially insecure
- the sexual revolution, where courtship went from being decent and polite based on personality, to bar night hookups and swipe left swipe right hookups based on looks only
- mass immigration resulting in a lack of identity amongst Western men, with no shared values or culture
- the demonisation of men in all institutions with 3rd wave feminism. The idea of male privilege, so our complaints will never be heard again. In fact, this one alone is 90% of our problems. Because of the left, anything you want to change about society will be laughed off, as a 'straight white male'.
- mass censorship of opinion, to the point where just a couple of weeks ago they were talking about designating YOU, the Riddler, a terrorist. Yeh good luck expressing your grievances with society mate, you potential murderer.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people through starvation, genocide(the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, and the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, Nazi's were both socialists) and civil war. In every country socialism has been tried in, it has resulted in misery. Not ONE country is free and prosperous whilst socialist- i challenge you to name one.
Conservatives have made mistakes, but those mistakes have only ever been a failure to live up to our values, like economic freedom and self-determination regardless of who you are. The left's mistakes are central to their ideology: the awfulness which has always resulted is endemic to their ideas, not a failure to live up to them.
Well I am much older than you and remember how things worked before the conservatives took over. It wasn't as bad as what it is now.... the changing dynamics of dating haven't resulted from politics its resulted from natural causes and evolutions of technology. What have the conservatives done for people like you and me? Nothing. Not saying Labour wouldnt' call us terrorists too they probably would... but wokeism is the door way to freeing many of us.

In my opinion INCELDOM should never have been mostly conservative..it makes me wonder why most incels are conservatives.. almost like changing gender dynamics and a inability to accept it is what causes the hate. Instead of trying to put things back to where they were (religious institutions, old values) we should instead go for true equality and a culture of real acceptance. WOKEISM is the way forward. Tbh at this point not bothered about changing opinions I know this is the way to go.

Instead of being an aggressor its OK to be a victim. Each of us right now are victims. Embrace Wokeism. I know most incels wont and thats OK too. Its just women for me are not the real enemy, i know who the real enemy is now.
I think that standards have gone up almost 100% due to online dating.

Politics has nothing to do with it. Women have more options now.
 

lowstatusmale

The Incel of Incels
UniCel said:
So you think we need to be progressive and left-wing? Who was it that has brought the Western world to the state it is in today? Who was it whose policies and policy implications have resulted in:
- such rampant inflation men cannot buy a house at a young age, and are financially insecure
- the sexual revolution, where courtship went from being decent and polite based on personality, to bar night hookups and swipe left swipe right hookups based on looks only
- mass immigration resulting in a lack of identity amongst Western men, with no shared values or culture
- the demonisation of men in all institutions with 3rd wave feminism. The idea of male privilege, so our complaints will never be heard again. In fact, this one alone is 90% of our problems. Because of the left, anything you want to change about society will be laughed off, as a 'straight white male'.
- mass censorship of opinion, to the point where just a couple of weeks ago they were talking about designating YOU, the Riddler, a terrorist. Yeh good luck expressing your grievances with society mate, you potential murderer.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people through starvation, genocide(the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, and the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, Nazi's were both socialists) and civil war. In every country socialism has been tried in, it has resulted in misery. Not ONE country is free and prosperous whilst socialist- i challenge you to name one.
Conservatives have made mistakes, but those mistakes have only ever been a failure to live up to our values, like economic freedom and self-determination regardless of who you are. The left's mistakes are central to their ideology: the awfulness which has always resulted is endemic to their ideas, not a failure to live up to them.
Well I am much older than you and remember how things worked before the conservatives took over. It wasn't as bad as what it is now.... the changing dynamics of dating haven't resulted from politics its resulted from natural causes and evolutions of technology. What have the conservatives done for people like you and me? Nothing. Not saying Labour wouldnt' call us terrorists too they probably would... but wokeism is the door way to freeing many of us.

In my opinion INCELDOM should never have been mostly conservative..it makes me wonder why most incels are conservatives.. almost like changing gender dynamics and a inability to accept it is what causes the hate. Instead of trying to put things back to where they were (religious institutions, old values) we should instead go for true equality and a culture of real acceptance. WOKEISM is the way forward. Tbh at this point not bothered about changing opinions I know this is the way to go.

Instead of being an aggressor its OK to be a victim. Each of us right now are victims. Embrace Wokeism. I know most incels wont and thats OK too. Its just women for me are not the real enemy, i know who the real enemy is now.
I don't blame any political system for my problems except when the government impedes economic development or restricts religious freedoms. Most of my life improvement have been the result of work opportunities and faith; both of which Conservatives see as important for personal development. Getting picked on in school was never a political issue. I'd much rather have people whispering amongst themselves that I am ugly than to have a government intervene to the extent that we'd be required to police each other's private conversations. I'm religious, but I'm also very critical of my own faith and I'm okay with others doing the same. I do read from the feminist perspective from time to time and it becomes apparent how much they are reading from a script and how careful they have to be to not make even the slightest criticism about their own ideology and community. That is a sick world to be a part of. It's not exclusive to feminism. Even incels dot co has become this way too.

Wokeism will never help white men. Even suggesting that men's issues are important (other than teaching little Billy not to rape) will result in you being labeled an MRA and subsequently alt-right. Feminism controls the dialogue on Men's Issues in progressive political parties.

You are right though, women are not the enemy. They are just people. Some are good; some aren't. If you don't want to be in a relationship with a woman; if you don't see enough value in them beyond sex to want their friendship and care than why be an incel? Why not MGTOW instead? I personally am at fault for my relationship status. I didn't make the right choices when I was young. I didn't make the effort to improve my looks. I managed my life and mental health poorly as to have ever fewer opportunities to meet someone than I have because of my looks. I don't understand blaming any government for incels. We all have to compete. When we are told that we get a participation trophy just for showing up it doesn't prepare us for anything. Women will not give in to us this way. They will expect us to outperform every other guy that is interested in them. And that's what we have to do.
 

lowstatusmale

The Incel of Incels
TheRiddler said:
UniCel said:
So you think we need to be progressive and left-wing? Who was it that has brought the Western world to the state it is in today? Who was it whose policies and policy implications have resulted in:
- such rampant inflation men cannot buy a house at a young age, and are financially insecure
- the sexual revolution, where courtship went from being decent and polite based on personality, to bar night hookups and swipe left swipe right hookups based on looks only
- mass immigration resulting in a lack of identity amongst Western men, with no shared values or culture
- the demonisation of men in all institutions with 3rd wave feminism. The idea of male privilege, so our complaints will never be heard again. In fact, this one alone is 90% of our problems. Because of the left, anything you want to change about society will be laughed off, as a 'straight white male'.
- mass censorship of opinion, to the point where just a couple of weeks ago they were talking about designating YOU, the Riddler, a terrorist. Yeh good luck expressing your grievances with society mate, you potential murderer.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people through starvation, genocide(the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, and the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, Nazi's were both socialists) and civil war. In every country socialism has been tried in, it has resulted in misery. Not ONE country is free and prosperous whilst socialist- i challenge you to name one.
Conservatives have made mistakes, but those mistakes have only ever been a failure to live up to our values, like economic freedom and self-determination regardless of who you are. The left's mistakes are central to their ideology: the awfulness which has always resulted is endemic to their ideas, not a failure to live up to them.
Well I am much older than you and remember how things worked before the conservatives took over. It wasn't as bad as what it is now.... the changing dynamics of dating haven't resulted from politics its resulted from natural causes and evolutions of technology. What have the conservatives done for people like you and me? Nothing. Not saying Labour wouldnt' call us terrorists too they probably would... but wokeism is the door way to freeing many of us.

In my opinion INCELDOM should never have been mostly conservative..it makes me wonder why most incels are conservatives.. almost like changing gender dynamics and a inability to accept it is what causes the hate. Instead of trying to put things back to where they were (religious institutions, old values) we should instead go for true equality and a culture of real acceptance. WOKEISM is the way forward. Tbh at this point not bothered about changing opinions I know this is the way to go.

Instead of being an aggressor its OK to be a victim. Each of us right now are victims. Embrace Wokeism. I know most incels wont and thats OK too. Its just women for me are not the real enemy, i know who the real enemy is now.
I think that standards have gone up almost 100% due to online dating.

Politics has nothing to do with it. Women have more options now.
Women's independence has resulted in them not having to marry and have sex with men they don't find attractive. They didn't have this option when there weren't as many work opportunities for women. Even with decent jobs though, those women not in relationships are no longer subsidized by their male partner. There are more women crying about the wage gap and higher employment standards mostly for the benefit of women. Women have crowded men out of comfy government admin jobs. They may not have the most high-profile jobs in government, but they have most of the supporting roles. And when they aren't high performers they still receive the bulk of government welfare for being single parents or education grants for the same. Women don't need men and when they do need sex they can man share and when they need more financial help to raise their children, they can get it from the government.
 
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bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
bcroger2 said:
TheRiddler said:
Well I am much older than you and remember how things worked before the conservatives took over. It wasn't as bad as what it is now.... the changing dynamics of dating haven't resulted from politics its resulted from natural causes and evolutions of technology. What have the conservatives done for people like you and me? Nothing. Not saying Labour wouldnt' call us terrorists too they probably would... but wokeism is the door way to freeing many of us.

In my opinion INCELDOM should never have been mostly conservative..it makes me wonder why most incels are conservatives.. almost like changing gender dynamics and a inability to accept it is what causes the hate. Instead of trying to put things back to where they were (religious institutions, old values) we should instead go for true equality and a culture of real acceptance. WOKEISM is the way forward. Tbh at this point not bothered about changing opinions I know this is the way to go.

Instead of being an aggressor its OK to be a victim. Each of us right now are victims. Embrace Wokeism. I know most incels wont and thats OK too. Its just women for me are not the real enemy, i know who the real enemy is now.
I think that standards have gone up almost 100% due to online dating.

Politics has nothing to do with it. Women have more options now.
Women's independence has resulted in them not having to marry and have sex with men they don't find attractive. They didn't have this option when there weren't as many work opportunities for women. Now women are in the work force, those not in relationships are no longer subsidized by their male partner. There are more women crying about the wage gap and higher employment standards mostly for the benefit of women. Women have crowded men out of comfy government admin jobs. They may not have the most high-profile jobs in government, but they have most of the supporting roles. And when they aren't high performers they still receive the bulk of government welfare for being single parents or education grants for the same. Women don't need men and when they do need sex they can man share and when they need more financial help to raise their children, they can get it from the government.
That’s true, but from 1990-2010 the dating standards were not nearly as high and foids had jobs and went to college.

It mostly has to do with the unlimited options that come with online dating
 

lowstatusmale

The Incel of Incels
lowstatusmale said:
bcroger2 said:
I think that standards have gone up almost 100% due to online dating.

Politics has nothing to do with it. Women have more options now.
Women's independence has resulted in them not having to marry and have sex with men they don't find attractive. They didn't have this option when there weren't as many work opportunities for women. Now women are in the work force, those not in relationships are no longer subsidized by their male partner. There are more women crying about the wage gap and higher employment standards mostly for the benefit of women. Women have crowded men out of comfy government admin jobs. They may not have the most high-profile jobs in government, but they have most of the supporting roles. And when they aren't high performers they still receive the bulk of government welfare for being single parents or education grants for the same. Women don't need men and when they do need sex they can man share and when they need more financial help to raise their children, they can get it from the government.
That’s true, but from 1990-2010 the dating standards were not nearly as high and foids had jobs and went to college.

It mostly has to do with the unlimited options that come with online dating
And those that are resorting to dating sites are looking for men that are better than those they have in their real life. Most women already have some guy in the life like me they try to avoid. Why would they choose me over all the options they have on a dating site. Men, on the other hand, will recognize the visible flaws in a woman and say 'hey, maybe this one won't have as many guys after her as the rest. Maybe I'll have a better chance with her.' And they'll contact a woman they know others will not consider attractive deliberately for that reason. This is a crucial difference between men and women and it may be because of the higher sex drive in men.
 
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