Why Incels must become socialists and drop conservative values

TheRiddler

Incels.net Super Villian
Now this will be a very controversial post and im expecting a bit of backlash from fellow incels. In my opinion its extremely important that incels are socialists than conservatives. The reason I think this is because our fight is the same fight as other leftist movements that fight for equality. The fact that most incels have conservative values it really stops people connecting with us. For instance I spoke with quite a few liberal socialist women who agreed that there is a lot of lookism in our society, a conversation I couldn't really get out of other conservatives and I think this might be the main problem with our political aims. Many conservatives are traditionalists, and I see that many incels want things to go back to the way things were (with women subordinate) but is this really the right way to go about it? The only way to create change is to be progressive and not regressive. So society needs to develop in a way that we recognise all forms of inequalities, rather than trying to drive society back into the stone age. Not that we ever had political aims...it just seems silly to vent here and have no goals to push society forward? Our values actually match with WOKENESS in society and we should appeal to these people who will protest, rather than conservatives who haven't helped any of you one bit......

Eventually this website may need to drop the INCEL logo and re-frame the argument from a inequality perspective than from a 'incel' perspective. People come here and can't take anything we say seriously due to the damaging propaganda of media websites. Those real incels who generally are victims of the system get branded and lumped together with killers who pick up shotguns. Now many incels won't be able to vent to other people who will humiliate them for being incels (and this is happening right now) it was only some time ago i saw a school kid getting bullied and incel remarks being thrown at him.

I then start thinking that we use this website to moan and that is fine but surely what we really need is authentic experience sharing where people can come here and see what the world is like through the eyes of an incel. They might then begin to see that most incels are not killers, they're individuals who are experiencing a large degree of inequality, but unable to project it correctly, as we seem to fall back on locker room talk in order to express our feelings. As men we are taught not to be vulnerable or make it appear like we are vulnerable, so it seems we attack rather than admit that our situation is bad and we are unable to change it. So instead of appearing as victims we want to appear as aggressors. I just dont understand why more guys here dont do this. I've experienced some real bad treatment in this society and I have been vulnerable and shown some of my real experiences?

I've been in contact with a few very known public protesters in London, who agree there is a lot of Lookism in our society. So the aim now is to put pressure on this government from a democratic perspective.

If they wont do anything, we will have to create as much chaos as possible in order to be heard.

We may also need to look at making the black pill a official religion...they will reject it at first but im pretty sure we will win at the later appeal stages. Since the black pill ideology focuses on the truths of this society that attractive people get treated better than unattractive people, which is actually a scientific fact.

We need more incels on this site to begin sharing their experiences....

Food for thought....
 
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SadLankyVirgin

Incels.Net Junior
I can’t wait to say “I told you so”

and to laugh in people’s faces.

incels should be heard , if a community of chads stood up they’d get an answer and sympathy.
It really shows just how much looks are a factor on whether you’ll be successful in life.

im not naive stupid or boring I just wear glasses, I can’t really grow a beard . My confidence is 50/50 I have good days and bad days, women see me as a “younger brother kinda guy” ; which is alright but not when your 21 , all my mates would be pulling girls , married women , etc and I’d always be left alone. it pains me more then anything that I missed out on a normal teen experience I’ve had none of it, I’m angry abusive and unmotivated now.
 

TheRiddler

Incels.net Super Villian
One of my most traumatic experiences is when I was 16, overhearing a dyslexia support teacher making inappropriate comments about my bad looks to the entire support group, which made me ditch that class, and back then I was outwardly rebellious so I refused to go, but i didnt mention why i refused to go. It was then I started holding my feelings in. I know a lot of boys/women are affected by this.

Everyone is entitled to move through life with the same priviledges as everyone else. You see when you try to join the police, the assessors are aware of looks discriminations and the halo effect, but the issue is the rest of society isn't. So many good employees are being passed off for better looking employees who benefit from pretty priviledge - and now you have young people who are hooked on plastic surgery, and plastic surgery now rising in men ---

Its because of your lookist society that people are made to feel this pressure. Readers don't listen... incels exist because of rising male beauty standards. Women think incels are not entitled to them, because of their looks. Lets face it - women are always telling the world how bad men are, they wouldn't know a good man if they tried. They go through perpertual cycles of seeking out the hottest and cutest males, only to get humped and dumped, and then they blame ''all men'' or take their frustrations out on average men and then they just go back to where they were.

For a ''tolerant'' society - most people are not aware one bit.

But its these kinds odf posts that dont make it in the media - they wish to focus on the minority who want to pick up shotguns and kill - because the media want to paint us all as terrorists. Fuck you.
 
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UniCel

Incels.Net Regular
So you think we need to be progressive and left-wing? Who was it that has brought the Western world to the state it is in today? Who was it whose policies and policy implications have resulted in:
- such rampant inflation men cannot buy a house at a young age, and are financially insecure
- the sexual revolution, where courtship went from being decent and polite based on personality, to bar night hookups and swipe left swipe right hookups based on looks only
- mass immigration resulting in a lack of identity amongst Western men, with no shared values or culture
- the demonisation of men in all institutions with 3rd wave feminism. The idea of male privilege, so our complaints will never be heard again. In fact, this one alone is 90% of our problems. Because of the left, anything you want to change about society will be laughed off, as a 'straight white male'.
- mass censorship of opinion, to the point where just a couple of weeks ago they were talking about designating YOU, the Riddler, a terrorist. Yeh good luck expressing your grievances with society mate, you potential murderer.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people through starvation, genocide(the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, and the Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party, Nazi's were both socialists) and civil war. In every country socialism has been tried in, it has resulted in misery. Not ONE country is free and prosperous whilst socialist- i challenge you to name one.
Conservatives have made mistakes, but those mistakes have only ever been a failure to live up to our values, like economic freedom and self-determination regardless of who you are. The left's mistakes are central to their ideology: the awfulness which has always resulted is endemic to their ideas, not a failure to live up to them.
 
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KoolHitler

Incels.Net Regular
Leftist bullshit is what gave us feminism, chicks with dicks, and western countries being overrun with foreigners and turning into welfare states.
When you resign yourself to working within the leftist-progressive framework, then you've already lost.

I want to destroy their entire framework, not be a part of it.

Incels would be better off starting their own religious organizations that are religiously rooted in Islam or Christianity.
Religion provides a good shield. Religious organizations are tax exempt and protected by law in the U.S., and many other countries.
If leftists attack us, then we can claim they are committing anti-religious hate crimes.

America in particular has tons of Christians, so there's ample opportunity for recruitment.
Turning the incel movement into a religious movement makes perfect sense, here's why:

The emergence of "inceldom" is entirely linked to the degeneration of society, caused by feminism, caused by the collapse of morality -- partially due to declining church attendance & religious adherence, the collapse of marriages, the rise of single motherhood, and rampant promiscuity. Religion is against all of those horrible things. Religion is anti-promiscuity, anti-adultery, and pro-marriage.

Incels should lead a Christian revival or crusade across America.
God is on our side, so what have we got to lose?


We can't work within the Globohomo system.
We have to destroy it and replace it with one based on solid, righteous values.

God is with us.
 

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.
 

UniCel

Incels.Net Regular
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.
There is no such thing as 'tuition-free college.' Somebody HAS to pay, don't they? Which means the taxpayer: truck drivers, retail workers, labourers/ handymen, entrepreneurs- these people are the backbone of the USA. Why should these hard working men, providing for the country, have to pay for some 18-year-old girl, high on the power of being a young attractive female, who treats ugly/ poor men like trash and worthless to her... to study some pointless degree like sociology, gender studies, critical race theory... whilst she sits around all day drinking and smoking being degraded by the popular guys.
That idea should make any incel pissed off.
 

UniCel

Incels.Net Regular
Leftist bullshit is what gave us feminism, chicks with dicks, and western countries being overrun with foreigners and turning into welfare states.
When you resign yourself to working within the leftist-progressive framework, then you've already lost.

I want to destroy their entire framework, not be a part of it.

Incels would be better off starting their own religious organizations that are religiously rooted in Islam or Christianity.
Religion provides a good shield. Religious organizations are tax exempt and protected by law in the U.S., and many other countries.
If leftists attack us, then we can claim they are committing anti-religious hate crimes.

America in particular has tons of Christians, so there's ample opportunity for recruitment.
Turning the incel movement into a religious movement makes perfect sense, here's why:

The emergence of "inceldom" is entirely linked to the degeneration of society, caused by feminism, caused by the collapse of morality -- partially due to declining church attendance & religious adherence, the collapse of marriages, the rise of single motherhood, and rampant promiscuity. Religion is against all of those horrible things. Religion is anti-promiscuity, anti-adultery, and pro-marriage.

Incels should lead a Christian revival or crusade across America.
God is on our side, so what have we got to lose?


We can't work within the Globohomo system.
We have to destroy it and replace it with one based on solid, righteous values.

God is with us.
There is no evidence for God existing. Believing in God is a delusion. In 2000 years since Christianity existed, nobody to this day has proven or even provided convincing evidence for God.
 

Player

Wizard Belarus living in Poland
I didn't run from commies to hear those mantras again on this site out all of the places.

Only ones who fully obey are tolerated and aknowledged by the regime. But this way you don't have rights. You only have PERMISSIONS.
 

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
bcroger2 said:
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.
There is no such thing as 'tuition-free college.' Somebody HAS to pay, don't they? Which means the taxpayer: truck drivers, retail workers, labourers/ handymen, entrepreneurs- these people are the backbone of the USA. Why should these hard working men, providing for the country, have to pay for some 18-year-old girl, high on the power of being a young attractive female, who treats ugly/ poor men like trash and worthless to her... to study some pointless degree like sociology, gender studies, critical race theory... whilst she sits around all day drinking and smoking being degraded by the popular guys.
That idea should make any incel pissed off.
Because allowing for tuition free community will actually increase upward mobility. Example, someone who works at Walmart, can take a lot of college credits while working and because a nurse for free.

Students can take 2 years of community college, then go to a 4 year university and graduate with very little to no debt if they work while taking cc classes.

It levels the playing field between the rich and poor. This way rich kids, won’t have a huge advantage over poor kids. I also support free pre-k for this reason.


Also, don’t think that alt/right women love incels or Republicans support our cause. One of the most rude foids I’ve met was a Trump supporter. If anything , right wing women hate us more than left wing women ( who in many cases fuck niggers and deadbeats) Bodybuilding.com is a hot bed of right wingism, and they hate incels as much as Reddit users.
 

lowstatusmale

The Incel of Incels
I am working class poor. When I look at which party platforms and initiatives would benefit me, they are almost all Conservative. When Liberals/Socialists talk about gender equality, they are always talking about giving more benefits to women. There is no political party here that cares about incels. Even religious Conservatives see us as terrorists.

Free education won't make me smarter or give me any incentive to go to school. I can't compete there and to support such policies would only take more money out of my pocket and give it to my competitor.

I do not see any party giving a shit about men especially lower-status men like myself. The school system didn't care about me. Pooling funds for Unemployment doesn't help me. I give more than I take. The medical system has a bias against me. I've seen it every time I have been in Emergency.

The more of my money the government lets me keep, the better off I am.

You are free to vote for whoever you want. I think you're a good guy, @TheRiddler, but I couldn't disagree with your post more.

I will always vote in my own self-interest.
 

Primordial94

Incels.Net Regular
Primordial94 said:
I think that it's more important that incels support freedom, and advocate for small government.
What about low income incels who would benefit from things such as free college and increased minimum wage?
If they want to support them then they can I'm just saying that in general that more incels should support freedom, and smaller government.
 

wizardcel

Brazilian sexual marxist and anti aoc advocate
Good luck with that. Leftists hate men. Some incels have tried to take our case to those who support leftists ideologies and they failed miserably. See how groups like IncelTears react to incels. They think we're whiners who didn't try hard enough. But they'll bend over backwards for gays and women. That is how the entire left operates. The left sees men as the oppressor and women as the oppressed. If they accept men as the victims then they're contradicting themselves and even leftists aren't that stupid.
 

[email protected]

Incels.Net Junior
The unattractive are the most oppressed people there are. Not only that but society does not even accept unattractiveness as a valid reason for failure. It's a finely tuned checkmate situation. They hate us for things we have no control over. And deep down they want us all dead
 

Now Enlightened

Incels.Net Regular
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.

Most incels here don't support Trump. I'm not even in your country. Incels are worldwide...

But SOCIALISM is COPE especially when it comes to courtship and dating.

People really expect we'll be treated equally in a socialist world. Lookism won't matter. There will be equality, a life where Chad and ricecell are now equal. Biggest BULLSHIT.
In a world where two men earn equal salary, one man will still be taller and better looking. He will still have more popularity.

Free college, free healthcare and paid leave all don't mean shit if you can't get laid. People don't go to college to learn Algebra.


Cope harder, boyos

*I agree with changing our logo. The media demonize us. We are not all murderers here.
 

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
bcroger2 said:
I support socialism because I support tuition free college, Medicare for all and paid leave.

So tired of seeing minimum wage incels support the gop because they think Trump is based or something ( he’s a billionaire Chad, the opposite of an incel)

Vote for policies, don’t vote for a person.

Most incels here don't support Trump. I'm not even in your country. Incels are worldwide...

But SOCIALISM is COPE especially when it comes to courtship and dating.

People really expect we'll be treated equally in a socialist world. Lookism won't matter. There will be equality, a life where Chad and ricecell are now equal. Biggest BULLSHIT.
In a world where two men earn equal salary, one man will still be taller and better looking. He will still have more popularity.

Free college, free healthcare and paid leave all don't mean shit if you can't get laid. People don't go to college to learn Algebra.


Cope harder, boyos

*I agree with changing our logo. The media demonize us. We are not all murderers here.
“Free college, free healthcare and paid leave all don't mean shit if you can't get laid. “

I don’t understand your point. At least you can get a job and healthcare with college and free healthcare.

Do you think that everything is about sex? Should all men who can’t get laid kill themselves in your view?
 
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