Why do so many in the incel community want to deny the existence of an incel movement?

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
I guess the way they look at it is, if there are noncels involved in a movement, then it can't be an incel movement, but rather it's something else, like a patriarchist or misogynist or MGTOW or red pill movement or whatever.

Nonetheless, I would consider this an incel movement site, even though not everyone here has the same politics. In other movements, like the Alt-Right or the left wing, there are plenty of factions within the faction. E.g., the Alt-Right is divided into seejtards, identitarians, American nationalists, the Alt-Lite, big-brained nibbas, WN1.0, NatSocs, based libertarians, and the National Alliance. The left is divided into progressives and moderate leftists. The mainstream right is divided into libertarians, religious conservatives, patriots, etc.

The incel movement is still a cohesive group despite its sub-factions; we still agree on a lot of stuff, like the legalization of suіcіde, the elimination of some of the worst feminist abuses, etc.

I think the animosity of the incel community toward the incel movement is that they are caught up in a victimhood mentality of saying they can't help being what they are, and they don't like the idea of there being a group that labels itself the incel anything, that isn't based on an inescapable status. But actually there is a gray area anyway, of standardscels (e.g. men who won't wife up a non-virgin), plus youngcels who are going to ascend once they get some betabuxx, etc. Not to mention, there are plenty of guys who underrate themselves and call themselves a 2/10 either because they lack self-confidence, or because they don't want to come off as bragging by saying they're, say, a 4/10. https://incels.net/threads/i-step-down.1636/post-19915

I get the ideal that they're shooting for, which is to have a group of guys who share in common that they can't get any pussy. But in reality, probably most of .co, including even probably knajjd, does not meet that criterion. And the guys who post the most are probably generally the "mentalcels" that a lot of the self-described truecels say they would like to get rid of.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
Mainly because fake news media has a real talent of smearing everything to make everyone look the same.

Its like when I say things like "Jews control everything and I wish I had more aryan genes" the fake news would lie and call me a neo nazi who wants to do a holocaust, even though even hitler himself didnt actually want to do a holocaust until 1939 when Muslims told him to do it. Spoiler alert I'm not a neo nazi I am more like just an American Patriot like George Washington who simply is sick of certain tyrants infringing upon our American independence.

So if you say you are part of an "incel" movement, the fake news will automatically assume you are the literal clone of ER even if you don't agree with some of his views.
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
So if you say you are part of an "incel" movement, the fake news will automatically assume you are the literal clone of ER even if you don't agree with some of his views.
The media denies there's an incel community (they regard it as a subculture or movement), while the incel community denies there's an incel movement (they basically disavow noncel allies, to the point they don't link to incel movement sites from their wiki https://incels.net/threads/incel-wiki-doesnt-even-want-to-document-the-existence-of-sites-serge-doesnt-consider-part-of-the-incel-community.1665/).

The truth is somewhere in between.
 

StrangeMan1

Malicious Wraith
Can I be considered truecel in theory due to my physical health ailments and total lack of sexual attraction/sex drive or do you have to fulfill height, face etc, requirements?
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
Can I be considered truecel in theory due to my physical health ailments and total lack of sexual attraction/sex drive or do you have to fulfill height, face etc, requirements?
Depends on whether the person talking to you feels jealous of your situation and would like to be in your place; if so, he'll probably call you volcel or whatever
 

StrangeMan1

Malicious Wraith
Depends on whether the person talking to you feels jealous of your situation and would like to be in your place; if so, he'll probably call you volcel or whatever
I strongly doubt any incel is ready to take 10 meds a day in exchange for not having to deal with women anymore.
My height is 6'2 and my face no longer looks like I come from a morgue. It looks normal-ish.
 

salustio

Incels.Net Junior
The only political thing we can all agree about and talk about it in public is the prostіtution legalization issue.

Also, sexdolls and robots are another political thing that we can discuss as a movement.
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
I strongly doubt any incel is ready to take 10 meds a day in exchange for not having to deal with women anymore.
My height is 6'2 and my face no longer looks like I come from a morgue. It looks normal-ish.
One consequence of the anti-bragging culture of the incelosphere is that probably no one is going to admit, "You have it worse than I do."
 

ZaraThustra

Incels.Net Regular
Maybe it's just me because I see femoids having standards way too high IRL an expecting the man to be a perfectly NT charisma master but I can't imagine enough men being non-virgins that incel sites go dry because of that

to ascend once they get some betabuxx
Betabux =/= ascending, also how does a youngcel have a greater chance at having the money to betabux than someone older, even if betabuxing meant you had sex and ascended?
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
Betabux =/= ascending
elab

also how does a youngcel have a greater chance at having the money to betabux than someone older, even if betabuxing meant you had sex and ascended?
A 20-year-old incel maybe is going to be a betabuxx at 30, as his situation improves, while a 40-year-old neet probably is always going to be a neet; he's obviously gotten stuck in his situation and can't get out.
 

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
Does using an escort count as "ascending"? In my book no, cause without being paid, the escort wouldnt touch you with a 10 foot pole! Its ONLY for the money!!
 

Sicklecel

Incels.Net Master
But in reality, probably most of .co, including even probably knajjd, does not meet that criterion. And the guys who post the most are probably generally the "mentalcels" that a lot of the self-described truecels say they would like to get rid of.
That's why it's better to have a blackpill movement than an incel movement. The reuirements for being a true incel are too high, but any man who understands how fucked up the dating scene is, and is against it, can be blackpilled.
 

Sicklecel

Incels.Net Master
Betabuxxing is the same as escortceling when it's not a sub21 year old virgin you're married to. Most of the time it's even worse than escortceling, because betabuxxers end up paying more and getting less sex, plus you have a high chance of getting cheated on and cucked by the old used rostie
 
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