Socialmaxxing?

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
I've been lurking incel forums for a while and I have noticed a lot of emphasis on looks (and money), but social skills are almost never mentioned ... why is that? I've heard of looksmaxxing and moneymaxxing, but never of socialmaxxing ...

Obviously looks are very important, attractive people have an enormous advantage while the ugliest might not get laid at all. But for some incels this might not be their biggest problem ... maybe they need to socialize more and get to know more people and practice their social skills. F.x. if you are 4/10 (just below average) but are also socially inept or a huge introvert ... then that is probably a bigger problem than your looks.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
Socialcirclemaxing isn't mentioned because incels usually aren't accepted in no social circle and can't create one of their own to last and be important.

I think "introversion" and "social skills" are to an extent a forced meme since incels do talk a lot here and on other incel sites just like me,when looks bias is minimized. IRL, however, it doesn't work because one way or another normans try to make incels stfu and he as invisible as possible.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
tremor said:
Socialcirclemaxing isn't mentioned because incels usually aren't accepted in no social circle and can't create one of their own to last and be important.
Almost missed the word "usually" there. Socializing is hard ... especially if you are lacking charisma for one reason or another. My feeling is that some incels might have been unlucky with people and gave up on trying to improve their social situation.
tremor said:
I think "introversion" and "social skills" are to an extent a forced meme since incels do talk a lot here and on other incel sites just like me,when looks bias is minimized.
Not being able to see peoples faces/hear their voice undoubtedly has an effect.
tremor said:
IRL, however, it doesn't work because one way or another normans try to make incels stfu and he as invisible as possible.
This depends on the crowd. Not everyone will ignore you because of your looks. Some people might even go out of their way to interact with someone who seems lonely (though those kinds of people are somewhat rare)
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
Curiosity said:
Almost missed the word "usually" there. Socializing is hard ... especially if you are lacking charisma for one reason or another. My feeling is that some incels might have been unlucky with people and gave up on trying to improve their social situation.
I don't know if there are incels who are a part of the community and "lucky with people". It's almost always about conflicts.
This depends on the crowd. Not everyone will ignore you because of your looks. Some people might even go out of their way to interact with someone who seems lonely (though those kinds of people are somewhat rare)
That is as long as you are not seen in public together.
 

love

Femoid
tremor said:
Socialcirclemaxing isn't mentioned because incels usually aren't accepted in no social circle and can't create one of their own to last and be important.

I think "introversion" and "social skills" are to an extent a forced meme since incels do talk a lot here and on other incel sites just like me,when looks bias is minimized. IRL, however, it doesn't work because one way or another normans try to make incels stfu and he as invisible as possible.
What group have you tried to create on your own?

I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
 

love

Femoid
tremor said:
Curiosity said:
Almost missed the word "usually" there. Socializing is hard ... especially if you are lacking charisma for one reason or another. My feeling is that some incels might have been unlucky with people and gave up on trying to improve their social situation.
I don't know if there are incels who are a part of the community and "lucky with people". It's almost always about conflicts.
This depends on the crowd. Not everyone will ignore you because of your looks. Some people might even go out of their way to interact with someone who seems lonely (though those kinds of people are somewhat rare)
That is as long as you are not seen in public together.
My elementary school had a special bench where kids would sit if they had no friends at breaks and lunch or after school. I would always go sit with them on the bench and invite them to play with me and my friends. I actually became best friends with one for many years.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
love said:
tremor said:
Socialcirclemaxing isn't mentioned because incels usually aren't accepted in no social circle and can't create one of their own to last and be important.

I think "introversion" and "social skills" are to an extent a forced meme since incels do talk a lot here and on other incel sites just like me,when looks bias is minimized. IRL, however, it doesn't work because one way or another normans try to make incels stfu and he as invisible as possible.
What group have you tried to create on your own?

I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
love said:
What group have you tried to create on your own?
I don't want to talk about epic failures. Those are elements of this set. Not that I have to anyway.
I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
Doesn't apply when the interlocutor is online and is quick to read.
love said:
My elementary school had a special bench where kids would sit if they had no friends at breaks and lunch or after school. I would always go sit with them on the bench and invite them to play with me and my friends. I actually became best friends with one for many years.
Top kek.
 

love

Femoid
tremor said:
love said:
What group have you tried to create on your own?
I don't want to talk about epic failures. Those are elements of this set. Not that I have to anyway.
No ones perfect. Everyone has failures
I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
Doesn't apply when the interlocutor is online and is quick to read.
I'm not sure what that means exactly. But socializing online is easier than in person, even for me and you think im some magical social butterfly.
love said:
My elementary school had a special bench where kids would sit if they had no friends at breaks and lunch or after school. I would always go sit with them on the bench and invite them to play with me and my friends. I actually became best friends with one for many years.
Top kek.

Actually she was a female
 

love

Femoid
lordoftheincels said:
love said:
tremor said:
Socialcirclemaxing isn't mentioned because incels usually aren't accepted in no social circle and can't create one of their own to last and be important.

I think "introversion" and "social skills" are to an extent a forced meme since incels do talk a lot here and on other incel sites just like me,when looks bias is minimized. IRL, however, it doesn't work because one way or another normans try to make incels stfu and he as invisible as possible.
What group have you tried to create on your own?

I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
What groups were they? How did you market them? I run groups all day at work and its hard to do. I usually have snacks and drinks to get more people to come to my "coffee and tea talk social skills" group.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
love said:
lordoftheincels said:
love said:
What group have you tried to create on your own?

I’m assuming there’s also a difference in being able to talk on a forum and in person. It’s much easier to chat online than in person. You can edit what you say online and delete it if you make a mistake thus creating a safety net. You can’t edit things you say in person.
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
What groups were they? How did you market them? I run groups all day at work and its hard to do. I usually have snacks and drinks to get more people to come to my "coffee and tea talk social skills" group.
It was at a social center. The social center was ran by jews, since jews run everything. I am not a nazi, I dont hate all jews. But as per usual jews only allow cucky social groups to exist, as a rule they dont allow anything cool.

I have been to different social centers. For instance at my therapist's center they have groups, but no groups for incels or romantically challenged people. Incels, as always, can't win. The idea of a group for incels would imply that its acceptable to have a sex drive towards women, which they don't want males to have in this society of course.
 

love

Femoid
lordoftheincels said:
love said:
lordoftheincels said:
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
What groups were they? How did you market them? I run groups all day at work and its hard to do. I usually have snacks and drinks to get more people to come to my "coffee and tea talk social skills" group.
It was at a social center. The social center was ran by jews, since jews run everything. I am not a nazi, I dont hate all jews. But as per usual jews only allow cucky social groups to exist, as a rule they dont allow anything cool.

I have been to different social centers. For instance at my therapist's center they have groups, but no groups for incels or romantically challenged people. Incels, as always, can't win. The idea of a group for incels would imply that its acceptable to have a sex drive towards women, which they don't want males to have in this society of course.
I'm sure what jews have to do with this. I'm not jewish but I dont see how they control community centres.

I feel like there might be less groups because health care is privatized where you are. These arent really recreation groups but actually group therapy groups. I actually do have a group for "romantically challenged" people. Its another module of my social skills groups for people who have finished social skills 101. We talk about issues, problems and concerns with dating and relationships, healthy relationships, sexual health, abuse in relationships, social skills in dating, how to ask someone to dance, go to the movies, have dinner or coffee, and keep relationships. However I mostly have women in my social skills for dating group. Idk where the men are at they dont want to do it. I dont have an incels group I would like to start one but I dont think people would really come to it because of the stigma with it. Also because I'm a women and thats another reason why no incel would ever come to my group. But then again if a guy facilitated the group I still dont think any incel would come.

almost every male has a sex drive towards women unless they are gay. Its not the sex drive thats the problem its the way it is expressed that can be inappropriate at times. For example I'm also a therapist and have had clients express feelings towards me. I understand that it happens and is natural however that has to be an end to the helping relationship because as a therapist I would no longer be effective in helping and the helping relationship is damaged. Its also not professional or ethical. Hence why I try to set those boundaries at the first session. Similarly with nursing in mental health it happens all the time where feelings are expressed. Its also both roles where I am in a position of care and these indviduals are very vulnerable and may not be used to having women or others caring for them.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
Not all jews. Not all jews are pure evil. But my whole life I hated the illuminati. I didn't understand why the illuminati was so evil. Then I found out the illumanti was the jewminati. Then it all made sense. Jews want to exterminate us all because their jewish religion says so. Jews are like the feringi of star trek, but worse.

Not a nazi and not all jews are evil. But the zionist jews want to make slaves of us all. Jews did 9/11. Jews corrupted second wave feminism and made it worse. Jews run our ZOG government and make it illegal to be male.
 

AfricanCel

Incels.Net Master
Curiosity said:
I've been lurking incel forums for a while and I have noticed a lot of emphasis on looks (and money), but social skills are almost never mentioned ... why is that? I've heard of looksmaxxing and moneymaxxing, but never of socialmaxxing ...

Obviously looks are very important, attractive people have an enormous advantage while the ugliest might not get laid at all. But for some incels this might not be their biggest problem ... maybe they need to socialize more and get to know more people and practice their social skills. F.x. if you are 4/10 (just below average) but are also socially inept or a huge introvert ... then that is probably a bigger problem than your looks.
People in general, especially females, tend to not want to be seen with ugly males. So, how are they suppose to practice their social skills when everyone doesn't want to be around them because of the way they look?
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
AfricanCel said:
Curiosity said:
I've been lurking incel forums for a while and I have noticed a lot of emphasis on looks (and money), but social skills are almost never mentioned ... why is that? I've heard of looksmaxxing and moneymaxxing, but never of socialmaxxing ...

Obviously looks are very important, attractive people have an enormous advantage while the ugliest might not get laid at all. But for some incels this might not be their biggest problem ... maybe they need to socialize more and get to know more people and practice their social skills. F.x. if you are 4/10 (just below average) but are also socially inept or a huge introvert ... then that is probably a bigger problem than your looks.
People in general, especially females, tend to not want to be seen with ugly males. So, how are they suppose to practice their social skills when everyone doesn't want to be around them because of the way they look?
For the incels who are buttugly its over, their only hope is to get rich and get plastic surgery. For the 5/10 cels oppressed by feminism and cock carousels, socialmaxxing was the suggestion. Likely wont work due to their autism and fractured souls though. Ie. over for blackops2cels, might not be over for eggcels.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
AfricanCel said:
People in general, especially females, tend to not want to be seen with ugly males. So, how are they suppose to practice their social skills when everyone doesn't want to be around them because of the way they look?
Not wanting to be associated with them at all is a rather extreme take on it. Ugly people are at a disadvantage compared to attractive people when it comes to social situations ... but they can still socialise.

For me, there is no conscious part that goes "he/she is too ugly to talk to". Some people I find uninteresting or annoying, but that assessment usually comes after I have interacted with them or seen them interact with others. Sometimes I might assume that someone is uninteresting, only to be corrected after I have interacted with them a few times.

There is another element to this though that applies to both ugly and attractive people: if people are not affiliated with you and don't know who you are they are very likely to ignore you. A stranger will most likely not approach you unless there is an association (f.x. at work or a club or a mutual friend) or if there is something they notice about you that sparks their interest. People who ignored you or gave you the cold shoulder the first few times you met them might become friendly later on ... I have experienced this many times even though people find me attractive ... so I know from experience that this particular effect is not just because of looks ... most people just tend to ignore those that they are not affiliated with.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
lordoftheincels said:
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
How was it shut down?
lordoftheincels said:
It was at a social center. The social center was ran by jews, since jews run everything. I am not a nazi, I dont hate all jews. But as per usual jews only allow cucky social groups to exist, as a rule they dont allow anything cool.
Did you know the people running it were jewish? Do you believe jews are conspiring against non-jews? If so, for what reason?
lordoftheincels said:
I have been to different social centers. For instance at my therapist's center they have groups, but no groups for incels or romantically challenged people. Incels, as always, can't win. The idea of a group for incels would imply that its acceptable to have a sex drive towards women, which they don't want males to have in this society of course.
Don't understand people who are against such groups. As animals we feel a strong desire to breed (except for asexuals) ... and as monogamous animals we also have a strong desire for romantic relationships (except for aromantics). This is such a central part to ones existence. This desire is also strongly tied to our feeling of self-worth ... it is absurd that anyone is against social groups to help those that can't find a mate.
 

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
Curiosity said:
lordoftheincels said:
I've actually tried to create real life groups for outsiders such as myself. But the powers that be, the jews, shut it down. Not a nazi as I do not think all jews are pure evil incarnate.
How was it shut down?
lordoftheincels said:
It was at a social center. The social center was ran by jews, since jews run everything. I am not a nazi, I dont hate all jews. But as per usual jews only allow cucky social groups to exist, as a rule they dont allow anything cool.
Did you know the people running it were jewish? Do you believe jews are conspiring against non-jews? If so, for what reason?
lordoftheincels said:
I have been to different social centers. For instance at my therapist's center they have groups, but no groups for incels or romantically challenged people. Incels, as always, can't win. The idea of a group for incels would imply that its acceptable to have a sex drive towards women, which they don't want males to have in this society of course.
Don't understand people who are against such groups. As animals we feel a strong desire to breed (except for asexuals) ... and as monogamous animals we also have a strong desire for romantic relationships (except for aromantics). This is such a central part to ones existence. This desire is also strongly tied to our feeling of self-worth ... it is absurd that anyone is against social groups to help those that can't find a mate.
Not ONLY absurd, but downright EVIL
 

Kolibri

Destroyer of Soy
As mentioned before, it's pretty tough to "socialmax" or "personalitymax" when nobody lets you do it. The catch-22 for socialmaxing is that you gotta be allowed to practice at it. Or be really good at learning how to do it from others, failing that. But even that usually won't save you. There are SOME ugly people who can socialize but that's more about luck than anything.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
Lordgoro said:
Not ONLY absurd, but downright EVIL
Yeah ... I'm not convinced that there is some conspiracy against incels here though (jewish or otherwise). I wont buy into conspiracy theories like the one lordoftheincels was referring to, unless there is substantial evidence.

I think it has more to do with apathy and a lack of awareness of the issue, combined with a social stigma.
 
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