Since masturbation does not work anymore. How to deal with sexual frustration?

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master
24-year old virgin here

14-18-Dated girls in middle and h.s, but never had sex. Never felt sexually frustrated.
19-23. This is when I went to college. This is when women began rejecting me. However, I would just masturbate and the sexual frustration left.

24+(present) -I don't even enjoy masturbating. I can't derive pleasure from masturbation.

Thoughts?
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
Just go for single mothers, there already are in mid-twenties. You could get normal dates if you have already done it though, unless something has ruined your looks.
 

bcroger2

Incels.Net Master


Fakecels out.

Just go for single mothers, there already are in mid-twenties. You could get normal dates if you have already done it though, unless something has ruined your looks.
Whats the point in dating some girls when you are a child, if you can't get sex now?

And yes, I wonder if something fucked my physical appearance over the year. Most of the photos of my self that I had are of poor quality, so its hard to tell.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
Whats the point in dating some girls when you are a child, if you can't get sex now?
Well, I really don't know what the "dates" looked like, but Chad already has sex at 14. In fact prime girls are impregnated either by teen Chad or an older rich fuck (who gets away with it too if he's Chad)
And yes, I wonder if something fucked my physical appearance over the year. Most of the photos of my self that I had are of poor quality, so its hard to tell.
If you can't tell, maybe it's not that bad. Lurk lookist forums, they know more about it. You probably won't even have to post your pic there, because people do that to themselves.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
I dont think he is fakecel, but a combination of things. My story is similar to his.

In highschool/middleschool I was mentalcel and a victim of abuse at school. School was very toxic for me. And everyone told me you need a big penis or else women would not be pleased. I wanted to please a woman and was ashamed of my penis that was only slightly bigger than average.

In any case, I had opportunities with women and highschool, but was too mentalcel to get laid.

My point is, this is no longer the case. I used to think I looked the same as I did in highschool, so why cant I get a girlfriend? But the brutal reality is I looked at an old photo of me in highschool by accident. And I realized I looked much cuter back then than I do now. Everything is about looks. Redpill is false. Now I have more confidence with women. I am also more alpha. Yet cant get laid.

In highschool, I was more effette and shy yet women would approach. Because of looks. Confidence is a redpill myth. When I had looks I could sit in a corner full of shyness and women would approach. Now that I Iost my looks, now always rejected.

It is like that episode of pokemon where Pikachu turns into Raichu. All Pikachus are afraid to become Raichu because they immediately get dumped and abandoned by their owners. Also i think if me and him time-travelled to 1970 we could get laid, even though our looks are not quite as good. But we live in age of feminism and hating males.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
I dont think he is fakecel, but a combination of things. My story is similar to his.

In highschool/middleschool I was mentalcel and a victim of abuse at school. School was very toxic for me. And everyone told me you need a big penis or else women would not be pleased. I wanted to please a woman and was ashamed of my penis that was only slightly bigger than average.

In any case, I had opportunities with women and highschool, but was too mentalcel to get laid.

My point is, this is no longer the case. I used to think I looked the same as I did in highschool, so why cant I get a girlfriend? But the brutal reality is I looked at an old photo of me in highschool by accident. And I realized I looked much cuter back then than I do now. Everything is about looks. Redpill is false. Now I have more confidence with women. I am also more alpha. Yet cant get laid.

In highschool, I was more effette and shy yet women would approach. Because of looks. Confidence is a redpill myth. When I had looks I could sit in a corner full of shyness and women would approach. Now that I Iost my looks, now always rejected.

It is like that episode of pokemon where Pikachu turns into Raichu. All Pikachus are afraid to become Raichu because they immediately get dumped and abandoned by their owners.
The way I view it the fakeceldom accusation should be interpreted as lifefuel/hopefuel, unless you can debunk it.

Of course a ban might follow and that's a disappointing thing, but an average fakecel would likely trade posting here for a normal life. Not sure what I'd do if I turned out to be a fakecel and I leterally don't see (in the mirror) how it can be a realistic scenario.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
I can debunk it.

Just go for single mothers, there already are in mid-twenties. You could get normal dates if you have already done it though, unless something has ruined your looks.

Most organisms go through two puberties. Child state, juvenile, then adult. Adult stage can lose some of youthful features that are more attractive. This is why after age 20 incels seem to be stuck as incel. This is what Pokemon is about. There is 3 forms: Pichu, PIkachu, then Raichu.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
I can debunk it.

Most organisms go through two puberties. Child state, juvenile, then adult. Adult stage can lose some of youthful features that are more attractive. This is why after age 20 incels seem to be stuck as incel. This is what Pokemon is about. There is 3 forms: Pichu, PIkachu, then Raichu.
Not sure if it's lifefuel or not if you have always been ugly.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
Even if legit ugly, society's attitude towards reject males will change. 100 years from now society will look back at female hypergamy and say that females were brutes and savages that only went for males that were thugs and chads, and how females almost caused the extinction of civilization. They will look at the fake news and view it as the Catholic priests who do not allow the truth.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
Even if legit ugly, society's attitude towards reject males will change. 100 years from now society will look back at female hypergamy and say that females were brutes and savages that only went for males that were thugs and chads, and how females almost caused the extinction of civilization. They will look at the fake news and view it as the Catholic priests who do not allow the truth.
The system will probably collapse making beta providers more valuable, but truecels will remain screwed.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
How will it make the 80/20 rule you've been referring to inaplicable?
80/20 rule exists because females are litterally averse to the males they see. You know that feeling when a homeless man walks up to you? And maybe he showers and smells okay. But you are feeling anti-social and dont wish to be haggled to give him 5 dollars. And maybe its a gay homeless man and he wants to kiss you on the lips. But you just arent feeling it, because biologically, you are averse to his physical appearance. And you dont wish ill on the man, and hope some day he finds happiness and romance, just not with you though. That is what women feel with subchads.

80/20 is not just because of supply and demand economics, but because women are literally averse to the physical appearance of subchads.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
80/20 rule exists because females are litterally averse to the males they see. You know that feeling when a homeless man walks up to you? And maybe he showers and smells okay. But you are feeling anti-social and dont wish to be haggled to give him 5 dollars. And maybe its a gay homeless man and he wants to kiss you on the lips. But you just arent feeling it, because biologically, you are averse to his physical appearance. And you dont wish ill on the man, and hope some day he finds happiness and romance, just not with you though. That is what women feel with subchads.

80/20 is not just because of supply and demand economics, but because women are literally averse to the physical appearance of subchads.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding it then. Will look into it later.
 

nobodyimportant89

Incels.Net Novice
I just masturbate.

I've really been considering going to a low end prostіtute lately (like $100/hr range) just to experience sex. But I'm afraid of being arrested by the police and being put on the sex offender registry or something. Nowadays drug addicted prostitutes simply claim to be sex trafficked and they get a bunch of support and called brave and no criminal charges, Meanwhile the "john" or the hookers pimp she hired for protection get 1-20 years in prison. Just "transporting a prostіtute" in my state is a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

The whole system is against men.
 

ortharzeal

EteRnal Evil.
I just masturbate.

I've really been considering going to a low end prostіtute lately (like $100/hr range) just to experience sex. But I'm afraid of being arrested by the police and being put on the sex offender registry or something. Nowadays drug addicted prostitutes simply claim to be sex trafficked and they get a bunch of support and called brave and no criminal charges, Meanwhile the "john" or the hookers pimp she hired for protection get 1-20 years in prison. Just "transporting a prostіtute" in my state is a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

The whole system is against men.
Tbh IMO it's better to save up for a trip to a country where prostіtution is legalized, if you want to go there. Escortceling is perhaps effectively the only way an incel can get laid, but it's far from the safest thing to do especially where it's not completely legal.
 

Che

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Even if legit ugly, society's attitude towards reject males will change. 100 years from now society will look back at female hypergamy and say that females were brutes and savages that only went for males that were thugs and chads, and how females almost caused the extinction of civilization. They will look at the fake news and view it as the Catholic priests who do not allow the truth.
 
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