It used to be, to be considered incel, you had to have actually tried to ascend

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
So if you were to make, say, 1,000 approaches, that would make you seem more incel rather than less. People would respect that at least you tried, and they would acknowledge that your failure confirms how truecel you are.

Now, it seems to be the opposite -- if you're making approaches and getting rejected, people say, "You must not be really blackpilled, or else you wouldn't even be making these approaches. Plus, if you continually fail, your game technique must be really bad; you must be applying some bluepill principles that are causing you to get rejected."

So they will actually respect you less because of your making those attempts.

I've also pointed out too elsewhere, in "If you become a failed cuck, everyone will hate you," if you actually do ascend but then get dumped and have to deal with the aftermath, people will hate on you even more, because they're like, "It's your fault for making a bad mate choice, or not having good enough game to keep her around. You're such a cuck."

So at this point, the encouragement seems to be to not even try, but rather just sit around saying, "I'm a 2/10 KHHV" and post a bunch of blackpills; then you gain respect.
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
JFL at approaching as an incel
Didn't that used to be a membership criterion in the early days of .me? Yeah -- it used to be that you had to have made numerous attempts. http://archive.is/qIEuy

Continually failing with different chicks won't be orbiting if you only try your technique on each foid once or twice. If your technique is orbiting in the friendzone for months and not getting anything out of it are behaviors typically associated with bluepillers.
Did you even make an attempt on that girl or are you just saying, "Oh, if I were to do it, I would do it differently" without providing any proof?
 

Sicklecel

Incels.Net Master
if you continually fail, your game technique must be really bad; you must be applying some bluepill principles that are causing you to get rejected.
Continually failing with different chicks won't be orbiting if you only try your technique on each foid once or twice. If your technique is orbiting in the friendzone for months, and not getting anything out of it, are behaviors typically associated with bluepillers.
 

Michael15651

Destined Virgin
If you delude yourself into actually believing that you have a chance with approaching women, you are not incel. Being incel implies that you acknowledge that you are genetically inferior, therefore, you can't get laid as a result of it.

Approaching is signifying that you haven't given up yet which means that you still believe you've actually got a chance with getting laid, therefore, the term involuntary celibate isn't compatible.
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
If you delude yourself into actually believing that you have a chance with approaching women, you are not incel. Being incel implies that you acknowledge that you are genetically inferior, therefore, you can't get laid as a result of it.

Approaching is signifying that you haven't given up yet which means that you still believe you've actually got a chance with getting laid, therefore, the term involuntary celibate isn't compatible.
So are you saying there are no bluepilled incels? I thought bluepilled incels made up the bulk of CuckTears membership. E.g., all these guys who say, "I used to be an incel, but now that I've become a feminist, I realize I can ascend whenever I want." They haven't actually gotten laid, but they believe they could if they tried.
 

Kolibri

Destroyer of Soy
If you delude yourself into actually believing that you have a chance with approaching women, you are not incel. Being incel implies that you acknowledge that you are genetically inferior, therefore, you can't get laid as a result of it.

Approaching is signifying that you haven't given up yet which means that you still believe you've actually got a chance with getting laid, therefore, the term involuntary celibate isn't compatible.
What if you're like me and you took the red and blue pills back in the day (10+ years ago) but have since lost all hope and given up, without having any successes?
 

Sicklecel

Incels.Net Master
If you delude yourself into actually believing that you have a chance with approaching women, you are not incel. Being incel implies that you acknowledge that you are genetically inferior, therefore, you can't get laid as a result of it.

Approaching is signifying that you haven't given up yet which means that you still believe you've actually got a chance with getting laid, therefore, the term involuntary celibate isn't compatible.
I think he means approaching in a redpill way vs a bluepill way. But still acknowledging the blackpill.
 

Michael15651

Destined Virgin
So are you saying there are no bluepilled incels? I thought bluepilled incels made up the bulk of CuckTears membership.
No such thing as bluepilled incel. Although, you can be a bluepilled virgin.

If you identify as an incel, you must both be a virgin and blackpilled. They are two separate things.
 

Leucosticte

Incels.Net Master
No such thing as bluepilled incel. Although, you can be a bluepilled virgin.

If you identify as an incel, you must both be a virgin and blackpilled. They are two separate things.
Oh, okay, so you accept the Wikipedia definition of incel, which is that it's an online subculture of misogynistic virgins.
 

Sicklecel

Incels.Net Master
No such thing as bluepilled incel. Although, you can be a bluepilled virgin.

If you identify as an incel, you must both be a virgin and blackpilled. They are two separate things.
To some people "blackpilled" means "I know it's over" but to me it means "Blackpilled about being cucked." Because I've accepted I won't have a long term relationship with my looksmatch, so I'll never allow myself to get cucked by over paying escorts or betabuxxing a used old rostie.
 

Michael15651

Destined Virgin
Oh, okay, so you accept the Wikipedia definition of incel, which is that it's an online subculture of misogynistic virgins.
No, the blackpill isn't '"toxic." It's simply acknowledging the word, specifically the dating market for what it is.

It's good that we divide ourselves from bluepilled virgins though.
 

Michael15651

Destined Virgin
To some people "blackpilled" means "I know it's over" but to me it means "Blackpilled about being cucked." Because I've accepted I won't have a long term relationship with my looksmatch, so I'll never allow myself to get cucked by over paying escorts or betabuxxing a used old rostie.
And that's fine, I think it's one of the many elements that's taken into account with the blackpill overall.
 

Lordgoro

MAD as a Hatter!
So if you were to make, say, 1,000 approaches, that would make you seem more incel rather than less. People would respect that at least you tried, and they would acknowledge that your failure confirms how truecel you are.

Now, it seems to be the opposite -- if you're making approaches and getting rejected, people say, "You must not be really blackpilled, or else you wouldn't even be making these approaches. Plus, if you continually fail, your game technique must be really bad; you must be applying some bluepill principles that are causing you to get rejected."

So they will actually respect you less because of your making those attempts.

I've also pointed out too elsewhere, in "If you become a failed cuck, everyone will hate you," if you actually do ascend but then get dumped and have to deal with the aftermath, people will hate on you even more, because they're like, "It's your fault for making a bad mate choice, or not having good enough game to keep her around. You're such a cuck."

So at this point, the encouragement seems to be to not even try, but rather just sit around saying, "I'm a 2/10 KHHV" and post a bunch of blackpills; then you gain respect.
 
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