It Hurts Itself In Confusion

tremor

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Hey, most normies only know about incels from media and Reddit. These guys never write about natural causes of inceldom, they only condemn self-identified incel mass murderers projecting their violence on all incels and ridicule trolls' and LARPers' "toxic" posts on incel websites about enslaving women and stuff.

They'll never ever show the general public any statistical/scientific/anecdotal evidence which incels use to back up the blackpill. Also they'll only interview good looking socially anxious "mentalcels" to speak for all incels, which leads to us looking hypocritical because we claim being incel because of looks. Social anxiety may be fixed, poor genes are a lifelong curse.

The few curious ones to actually get to reading the original sources will either cope by thinking that serious posts are a trickery for us to look decent or join us. Most of the normcucks will instead fuel their ego by thinking they aren't so fucked up after all compared to us and virtue signaling with posts about their respect towards women and the qualities of cuck life like "conquering their postwall wife with their beautiful personality".

They just don't understand how one can be involuntarily celibate, their main point is that we're voluntarily celibate because of the way we behave online. Somehow they can't realize that no incel ever approached a girl telling her she must be his property or sth like that. No, most of them would try being "nice" or "alpha" and failed because they weren't Chad. The online hate incels show is mostly due to feeling tricked into thinking that they can fix their situation IMO. Of course incels are further enraged when normies robotically post the same platitudes about confidence, taking showers and telling compliments because this is what led to them realizing they are inferior thanks to their genes in the first place.
Chad doesn't give a damn about all this
 

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even if I've had it (looks around to make sure knajjd's anti-brag brigade ain't here) I got forced back into celibacy. hence the meme "men being turned incel" and I'm a rugged, nasty looking mentalcel with edgy beliefs. I hate society at this point. hell, I took at least the redpill at 12 in 1994 after reading Rush Limbaugh. things were never the same.
 

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of course Chad doesn't. most of the Chads I grew up with were Sicilians. so I started getting beat up for calling them Euroniggers. I got over it but tend to believe Sicily is where bad Italians live. the rest of Italy is fine hence Mussolini
 

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IntolerantSocialist said:
of course Chad doesn't. most of the Chads I grew up with were Sicilians. so I started getting beat up for calling them Euroniggers. I got over it but tend to believe Sicily is where bad Italians live. the rest of Italy is fine hence Mussolini
From what I've heard North Italy is best Italy because, as opposed to Sicily, Campania and other Southern regions, it's more industrially developed and sandnigger refugees from Africa fail to swim this far on their boats.
 
I guess I'm one of the curious ones. The metaphorical rock I live under has been degrading at the bottom of a lakebed for the better part of 5 years. I didn't know what an "incel" was until about two weeks ago.
I'd have to say the media's portrayal is a definite worse-case scenario for incels/any subdivision of the term. Some comments have given me pause, or caused me to do a double-take... But overall I've felt my opinion sway over the last week of lurking through these forums.

On that note: please don't ban me. It's taken me awhile to build up the courage to say anything. Really I'm just here to learn, read, and maybe ask a question or two every so often to satisfy my curiosity. I'm not here to judge, or to give "bluepill" advice. I'm second guessing this choice even now, but here it goes.
 

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It's taken me awhile to build up the courage to say anything. Really I'm just here to learn, read, and maybe ask a question or two every so often to satisfy my curiosity.
Just be confident br0.
To be serious, AFAIK, being blackpilled or at least not forcing blue/redpilled copes suffices to stay alive here. Also telling the truth is more respectable than lying through your teeth about how high inhib giga introverted truecel you are.
 
tremor said:
Just be confident br0.
Personally, I respect the ѕhit out of brutal honesty. (Even in regards to opinions.) I've seen a lot of that here, so I'm willing to give as much as I get.
I do appreciate the encouragement though, so thank you.
 

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nervewracking said:
tremor said:
Just be confident br0.
Personally, I respect the ѕhit out of brutal honesty. (Even in regards to opinions.) I've seen a lot of that here, so I'm willing to give as much as I get.
I do appreciate the encouragement though, so thank you.
Well, nearly all incels would benefit if changes in the society they (trolls' ridiculous ideas excluded) suggest are implemented. The trick is our ideas are opposed to the dominating leftist ideas, from which soothes women and cucks giving the former privileged status and the latter the thrill of being SJW "superheroes".

That's why they label us evil and themselves good, while some of us do it vice versa. When feminiѕts didn't dominate, they acted as if women were victims so as not to be deemed evil by what they'd call patriarchal society. That's hilarious they still do that.
 

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brutal honesty is best but not in the public sphere. the public are useful stooges who need to hear what they want to hear and then given a dose of reality. sometimes Machiavelli is right, but in the private sphere honesty is the general rule of thumb.
 
I feel like I'm not knowledgeable enough on these matters in this community to have a fully-formed political opinion yet. But here are some thoughts:

Going for an ultimate equality isn't ever going to be achievable (for anyone) as "equality" is the most subjective thing there is. We then start talking about forcibly governing people's morality and start approaching religious/cultist territory.

People can fight for change, but the world has never been, and will never be a fair place. No one starts a movement and sees all possibilities either.
(Like I was just reading the thread about voting. I don't agree with women's rights specifically being taken away... But fuck would I love it if everyone had to have a high iq for their opinion to matter.)
 
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brutal honesty is best but not in the public sphere. the public are useful stooges who need to hear what they want to hear and then given a dose of reality. sometimes Machiavelli is right, but in the private sphere honesty is the general rule of thumb.
I very much hope this is considered a private sphere. 'Cuz the stooges or the majority of the public watching mainstream media aren't going to be given any of an incels' reality. Just the juicy newsworthy tidbits. They're going to have to look for it like myself, and I didn't come here for sugar-coated crap.
 

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nervewracking said:
Going for an ultimate equality isn't ever going to be achievable (for anyone) as "equality" is the most subjective thing there is. We then start talking about forcibly governing people's morality and start approaching religious/cultist territory.
This looks like a complicated issue to me too, but it's cleae equality won't happen in the neareat future. Inceldom is in fact about the struggle of unfortunate men who have inherited evolutionary inferior genes from their parents and the injustice of today's universal female privilege, no matter how deformed a woman is.

What seems weird to me is how male masters of the world gladly abolished the sexual equality of genders aka "enforced monogamy". They surrendered to feminism and promoted some other indistinct concept of "equality" allegedly achievable through abolishment of social restrictions which were designed to mitigate the natural disparity of opportunity, similar to that in animal world.
 
tremor said:
This looks like a complicated issue to me too, but it's cleae equality won't happen in the neareat future. Inceldom is in fact about the struggle of unfortunate men who have inherited evolutionary inferior genes from their parents and the injustice of today's universal female privilege, no matter how deformed a woman is.

What seems weird to me is how male masters of the world gladly abolished the sexual equality of genders aka "enforced monogamy". They surrendered to feminism and promoted some other indistinct concept of "equality" allegedly achievable through abolishment of social restrictions which were designed to mitigate the natural disparity of opportunity, similar to that in animal world.
Oh how I wish enforced monogomy was a thing. But from what I've studied it almost never was. (And please correct me if I'm wrong.) In most societies it was women facing the most stigmatism for breaking loyalties. Men were often allowed multiple wives or could divorce their wives, get remarried, and not face the same "you failed" mentality. An example of bad religious teaching would be a woman being stoned to death for just being expected of adultery. But if the opposite were true, nothing happened, and the man was expected to remarry to carry on his line. Kings and peasants alike. Rather than cracking down on a bs double standard feminism was born. Chain reaction to where we are today in societies flippant nature, for sure.

I feel like I want to come back to this when I've had sleep. Reading it back it started sounding a little preachy. Didn't mean to.
 

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nervewracking said:
In most societies it was women facing the most stigmatism for breaking loyalties. Men were often allowed multiple wives or could divorce their wives, get remarried, and not face the same "you failed" mentality. An example of bad religious teaching would be a woman being stoned to death for just being expected of adultery. But if the opposite were true, nothing happened, and the man was expected to remarry to carry on his line. Kings and peasants alike. Rather than cracking down on a bs double standard feminism was born. Chain reaction to where we are today in societies flippant nature, for sure.
Well, before religion reformation in the West and introduction of non-papal church divorce was forbidden even for kings AFAIK. In England, for instance, Henry VIII created his own church just to allow himself to divorce his wife.

In muslim countries, according to their religious norms a man could have multiple (up to 4, if I'm not mistaken) wives if he was able to provide for them. So, if you statusmax and earn much money, then OK, have more than one wife.

In both cases it was implied that no woman should have sex before marriage. They say women become emotionally attached to the first man, which is good for a family's stability.

It's sounds better than how today Chad gets 80% of all women. Probably wasn't sunshine and lolipops in real life, but I like the concepts.
 
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In both cases it was implied that no woman should have sex before marriage. They say women become emotionally attached to the first man, which is good for a family's stability.

It's sounds better than how today Chad gets 80% of all women. Probably wasn't sunshine and lolipops in real life, but I like the concepts.
Well, that's one thing I can agree whole-heartedly with.
 

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IntolerantSocialist said:
jay jay is anti-feminiѕt, but when the incel question is brought up he/she goes into full NPC mode

I don't get some people

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JayJay sounds like a full retard NPC. I wish it was legal to beat NPCs? Does that make me incel?

Here's a thought. Maybe if people had empathy and actually acted nice, instead of saying vitriolic retarded generic thoughtless guttural reflexes....then they wouldn't be hated and called NPCs.
 

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tremor said:
nervewracking said:
Going for an ultimate equality isn't ever going to be achievable (for anyone) as "equality" is the most subjective thing there is. We then start talking about forcibly governing people's morality and start approaching religious/cultist territory.
This looks like a complicated issue to me too, but it's cleae equality won't happen in the neareat future. Inceldom is in fact about the struggle of unfortunate men who have inherited evolutionary inferior genes from their parents and the injustice of today's universal female privilege, no matter how deformed a woman is.

What seems weird to me is how male masters of the world gladly abolished the sexual equality of genders aka "enforced monogamy". They surrendered to feminism and promoted some other indistinct concept of "equality" allegedly achievable through abolishment of social restrictions which were designed to mitigate the natural disparity of opportunity, similar to that in animal world.
I don't think the modern world is the same as natural selection. I don't think all incels have inferior genes. Some are mentalcels who are just not cucky enough to attract a feminiѕt female.

I think Natural Selection would be like the Purge movies. And if natural selection was a thing, chad's would be surrounded by a bunch of angry incels... chad's wouldn't freely get 80% of the women. But chad's know that noone can ever hurt them so they do whatever they want, just like those narcissist social media wh*res too.
 

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lordoftheincels said:
I don't think the modern world is the same as natural selection. I don't think all incels have inferior genes. Some are mentalcels who are just not cucky enough to attract a feminiѕt female.

I think Natural Selection would be like the Purge movies. And if natural selection was a thing, chad's would be surrounded by a bunch of angry incels... chad's wouldn't freely get 80% of the women. But chad's know that noone can ever hurt them so they do whatever they want, just like those narcissist social media wh*res too.
Yes, it's not that bad. Our life is more regulated than life of animals and it has its advantages.

I doubt that under natural selection incels would prevent Chad from getting almost all women. It seems natural to me that an alpha male gets everything as the leader of the tribe/herd/pack/whatever. From what I've googled, wide frame, angular face and good jawline, which make up a typical Chad's image are linked to high testosterone. High T also is likely to cause aggressiveness and conpetitiveness. So, Chad has better genetic potential to become the alpha male.

I currently stick to the hypothesis that women are attracted to Chad because they haven't yet mentally evolved from caveman in their sexual preferences. To be fair, most men haven't gone much further too. Maybe we haven't advanced at all and the variety of sexual preferences men have is a cope.
 
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