Is a civil war inevitable in America

Ojdhin

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It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Biden does win he will likely be a single term president, and be voted out because of his garbage policies. Humans are mostly idiots, why would business owners vote for raising their own taxes while they are suffering from covid lockdowns? How will this ‘restart’ the economy?

Furthermore Biden’s international policies will make China stronger, perhaps even to allow them to heavily influence the world, and China is every bit as degenerate as the United states so do not believe they will help our situation. It is the same thing there even mildly attractive women go for a very specific 10% of men. (though not chad oddly, most asian foids prefer oval faced plump small squinty eyed short men with spiky hair. Weird.)
 
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Don't think so. USA either bring its institutes back to a semi-functional state legally or will start the long and painful way to becoming Brazil/Russia 2.0 under the reign of the Marxist zombie horde and big tech monopolies.

So far I did not see protests and riots from the side of true Americans. What, Trump is personally responsible for re-counting ballots? Should he single-handedly handle the situation as some messiah? Where is the support of the people?
 

GokuGetEmAttitu

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Don't think so. USA either bring its institutes back to a semi-functional state legally or will start the long and painful way to becoming Brazil/Russia 2.0 under the reign of the Marxist zombie horde and big tech monopolies.

So far I did not see protests and riots from the side of true Americans. What, Trump is personally responsible for re-counting ballots? Should he single-handedly handle the situation as some messiah? Where is the support of the people?
I suspect at least a few of the riots.... Sorry, "protests" a few years ago were started by, if not fully funded by dirty socialist money. Beyond that, people are usually very hesitant to tear down what they worked so hard to build, and the right have contributed a lot more to building this country up than the left.

Besides that, I have little doubt that there are more physical ballots for Biden than Trump in all of these swing states. What I doubt is the authenticity and legality of many of those ballots. And without verifying every person is not only real but a legally registered voters I don't know how you could weed out the frauds.

At this point, there's no reason to ever trust an election again, which means the system is fundamentally broken and needs to collapse so it can be rebuilt. We need to remove women's right to vote as well as remove the ability for all non-landowmers to vote (exempting those who actively served in the military; if you risk your life for your country you deserve a say period). If you do that, in combination with Trump's tarrifs and restrictions on overseas manufacturing/labor, I think you would start to create a system where you would get people voting for the good of the country again. There's little incentive for renter/HUD leech Joey to vote for what's in the best interest of the nation over short term gibs if he doesn't have a genuine stake/ownership I'm his country. That's why only landowners were allowed to vote to begin with.

It's amazing how well designed the original version of the US government was built, and it's sickening how far we have drifted from those ideals.
 

Ojdhin

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Don't think so. USA either bring its institutes back to a semi-functional state legally or will start the long and painful way to becoming Brazil/Russia 2.0 under the reign of the Marxist zombie horde and big tech monopolies.

So far I did not see protests and riots from the side of true Americans. What, Trump is personally responsible for re-counting ballots? Should he single-handedly handle the situation as some messiah? Where is the support of the people?
I suspect at least a few of the riots.... Sorry, "protests" a few years ago were started by, if not fully funded by dirty socialist money. Beyond that, people are usually very hesitant to tear down what they worked so hard to build, and the right have contributed a lot more to building this country up than the left.

Besides that, I have little doubt that there are more physical ballots for Biden than Trump in all of these swing states. What I doubt is the authenticity and legality of many of those ballots. And without verifying every person is not only real but a legally registered voters I don't know how you could weed out the frauds.

At this point, there's no reason to ever trust an election again, which means the system is fundamentally broken and needs to collapse so it can be rebuilt. We need to remove women's right to vote as well as remove the ability for all non-landowmers to vote (exempting those who actively served in the military; if you risk your life for your country you deserve a say period). If you do that, in combination with Trump's tarrifs and restrictions on overseas manufacturing/labor, I think you would start to create a system where you would get people voting for the good of the country again. There's little incentive for renter/HUD leech Joey to vote for what's in the best interest of the nation over short term gibs if he doesn't have a genuine stake/ownership I'm his country. That's why only landowners were allowed to vote to begin with.

It's amazing how well designed the original version of the US government was built, and it's sickening how far we have drifted from those ideals.
Chads shouldn‘t vote either. Chads enjoy what the abstinent suffer to build. (Unless they are sympathizers to incels and have lifelong monogamous relationship.) They are textbook freeloaders. Only the destitute and wage slave should vote. The destitute because they suffer and should be heard and the wage slave because they keep society running. Normies who worship chads should not vote either whether wage slave or not.
 

Jamesothy

Incels.Net Novice
It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Biden does win he will likely be a single term president, and be voted out because of his garbage policies. Humans are mostly idiots, why would business owners vote for raising their own taxes while they are suffering from covid lockdowns? How will this ‘restart’ the economy?

Furthermore Biden’s international policies will make China stronger, perhaps even to allow them to heavily influence the world, and China is every bit as degenerate as the United states so do not believe they will help our situation. It is the same thing there even mildly attractive women go for a very specific 10% of men. (though not chad oddly, most asian foids prefer oval faced plump small squinty eyed short men with spiky hair. Weird.)
You're wrong. 80/20 doesn't exist in China. There's a lot of super ugly dudes with average salaries married to beauty queens. The pressure for women to marry and have kids in China is huge. Astronomical when compared to anywhere in the West. After a woman hits 25 she'll start trying to find a husband at any costs. If she hits 28 it's probably gonna be a longshot for her to find any husband regardless of how hot she is. If she hits 30 and doesn't have a serious boyfriend who's willing to marry her it's pretty much over for her. As degenerate as China is, and it is degenerate, it's still very much a man's world. Feminism, political correctness, SJWs, animal rights, and restrictions on smoking simply do not exist in China. The population of men far out number the women, but it doesn't matter. Almost no man is willing to marry a woman over 30 years old.
 

Jamesothy

Incels.Net Novice
It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Biden does win he will likely be a single term president, and be voted out because of his garbage policies. Humans are mostly idiots, why would business owners vote for raising their own taxes while they are suffering from covid lockdowns? How will this ‘restart’ the economy?

Furthermore Biden’s international policies will make China stronger, perhaps even to allow them to heavily influence the world, and China is every bit as degenerate as the United states so do not believe they will help our situation. It is the same thing there even mildly attractive women go for a very specific 10% of men. (though not chad oddly, most asian foids prefer oval faced plump small squinty eyed short men with spiky hair. Weird.)
China's nothing Thailand or anywhere else in SE Asia.
 

Ojdhin

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Ojdhin said:
It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Biden does win he will likely be a single term president, and be voted out because of his garbage policies. Humans are mostly idiots, why would business owners vote for raising their own taxes while they are suffering from covid lockdowns? How will this ‘restart’ the economy?

Furthermore Biden’s international policies will make China stronger, perhaps even to allow them to heavily influence the world, and China is every bit as degenerate as the United states so do not believe they will help our situation. It is the same thing there even mildly attractive women go for a very specific 10% of men. (though not chad oddly, most asian foids prefer oval faced plump small squinty eyed short men with spiky hair. Weird.)
China's nothing Thailand or anywhere else in SE Asia.
With all respect due, marriage is just a sheet of paper. I may be closer to a volcel in this respect, but I strongly advise: marriage for wealth (or for the sake of marriage) is worse than no marriage at all. If marriage is done with a woman who does not love you, you are better off hiring an escort. China is the same if not worse than the states especially considering there are 121 male births to 100 female births there. 80/ 20 absolutely exists there, fake love is just glorified escorting. Plus marrying said girls is the same as marrying escorts. They are the same as in the states. Feminism absolutely exists and is entrenched in contemporary chinese society. What is the source? I have been on study trips in China, plus I am a quarter chinese.

But the worst thing is the culture there. There is no privacy. All of your wealth is basically the government’s, because everyone is part of a social credit system. There is no intellectual freedom. Perhaps you are someone who wishes to live under such a system? Well then we are different friend, but I will not judge you.
 
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Jamesothy

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Jamesothy said:
Ojdhin said:
It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Biden does win he will likely be a single term president, and be voted out because of his garbage policies. Humans are mostly idiots, why would business owners vote for raising their own taxes while they are suffering from covid lockdowns? How will this ‘restart’ the economy?

Furthermore Biden’s international policies will make China stronger, perhaps even to allow them to heavily influence the world, and China is every bit as degenerate as the United states so do not believe they will help our situation. It is the same thing there even mildly attractive women go for a very specific 10% of men. (though not chad oddly, most asian foids prefer oval faced plump small squinty eyed short men with spiky hair. Weird.)
China's nothing Thailand or anywhere else in SE Asia.
With all respect due, marriage is just a sheet of paper. I may be closer to a volcel in this respect, but I strongly advise: marriage for wealth (or for the sake of marriage) is worse than no marriage at all. If marriage is done with a woman who does not love you, you are better off hiring an escort. China is the same if not worse than the states especially considering there are 121 male births to 100 female births there. 80/ 20 absolutely exists there, fake love is just glorified escorting. Plus marrying said girls is the same as marrying escorts. They are the same as in the states. Feminism absolutely exists and is entrenched in contemporary chinese society. What is the source? I have been on study trips in China, plus I am a quarter chinese.

But the worst thing is the culture there. There is no privacy. All of your wealth is basically the government’s, because everyone is part of a social credit system. There is no intellectual freedom. Perhaps you are someone who wishes to live under such a system? Well then we are different friend, but I will not judge you.
You're right about a lot of things. There's a general lack of privacy. Or rather, it's just difficult to get away from the masses of people/noise. The intellectual freedom thing is true as well. You can't talk about certain things. As for the social credit system, that has only only been tested so far. And only in certain parts of select cities. It's been tested in Dalian and certian districts of Shanghai, and maybe in Chongqing as well, but it's still a long way from being rolled out nation wide. Most of the Chinese population have never even heard of the social credit system.

My point was about the 80/20 rule and feminism. Feminism in China exists in name only. The ideals of self proclaimed Chinese feminiѕts are nothing like those in the West. Sure there are sexually experienced sl*ts that will try to intimidate or take advantage of naive men who will simp for them, but it's not the norm. It's nowhere near as prevalent and it's not certainly not celebrated by the mainstream. You might have had some bad experiences with some haughty b*tches while you were there, but feminism is definitely not entrenched in contemporary Chinese society. On your study trips you likely only met and mingled with a very small, very priviliged, percentage of the population. You gotta remember that anybody in China who has even an intermediate grasp of the English language, a drop in the ocean relatively speaking, is going to be a far cry from an accurate reflection of Chinese society at large. A lot of these people have been exposed to Western culture/values/ideologies because they've spent a couple years studying abroad themselves. If not you can be sure that they've spent countless hours over multiple years emmersing themselves in English by soaking up Western media, usually through the use of a VPN.

Here's some things to think about. In China it's a woman's responsibility to ensure she doesn't get pregnant. There's no such thing as forced child support payments. It doesn't matter if a paeticular man's the unwed belly sweller of 30 different sl*ts. It's a woman's responsibility to keep from getting pregnant and it's her responsibility to abort it if she does. If she wants to have and raise it then that's on her. I'm not saying I advocate abortion. That's just the way it is. There's no such thing as alimony either. A woman in China's SOL if she she can't support herself in the event of a divorce. It doesn't matter who initiated it, what the circumstances were, or how rich her ex husband is. Another thing is nobody in China's gonna prosecute a man for beating his wife unless she's been grievously injured. A broken jaw and a few broken ribs usually won't be enough to cut it.

Even if the idea of Western feminism exists within the minds of a few specially indulged members of Chinese society it still could never thrive there. There's nothing to stop a man from maintaining his authority as head of the houshold by any means necessary. People in China won't intervene in domestic disputes. Even if a man is beating and dragging his wife through the streets the police will be very reluctant to physically get involved. They might politely try reasoning with him to get him to stop but, unless it's in the metropolitan area of a first tier city like Shanghai where Western tourists are likely to be about, they're most likely not gonna touch the man if he keeps on beating her. While this doesn't happen a lot, and I'm not advocating violence either, these things do tend to keep women in check.

Look, I'm not trying to kiss China's ass or anything. I hate communism. I'm just saying that there's a lot of good values that still exist there that can't be found anywhere else in the world without going to the middle east or different parts of Africa. It's got nothing to do with politics.
 

Ojdhin

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Ojdhin said:
Jamesothy said:
China's nothing Thailand or anywhere else in SE Asia.
With all respect due, marriage is just a sheet of paper. I may be closer to a volcel in this respect, but I strongly advise: marriage for wealth (or for the sake of marriage) is worse than no marriage at all. If marriage is done with a woman who does not love you, you are better off hiring an escort. China is the same if not worse than the states especially considering there are 121 male births to 100 female births there. 80/ 20 absolutely exists there, fake love is just glorified escorting. Plus marrying said girls is the same as marrying escorts. They are the same as in the states. Feminism absolutely exists and is entrenched in contemporary chinese society. What is the source? I have been on study trips in China, plus I am a quarter chinese.

But the worst thing is the culture there. There is no privacy. All of your wealth is basically the government’s, because everyone is part of a social credit system. There is no intellectual freedom. Perhaps you are someone who wishes to live under such a system? Well then we are different friend, but I will not judge you.
You're right about a lot of things. There's a general lack of privacy. Or rather, it's just difficult to get away from the masses of people/noise. The intellectual freedom thing is true as well. You can't talk about certain things. As for the social credit system, that has only only been tested so far. And only in certain parts of select cities. It's been tested in Dalian and certian districts of Shanghai, and maybe in Chongqing as well, but it's still a long way from being rolled out nation wide. Most of the Chinese population have never even heard of the social credit system.

My point was about the 80/20 rule and feminism. Feminism in China exists in name only. The ideals of self proclaimed Chinese feminiѕts are nothing like those in the West. Sure there are sexually experienced sl*ts that will try to intimidate or take advantage of naive men who will simp for them, but it's not the norm. It's nowhere near as prevalent and it's not certainly not celebrated by the mainstream. You might have had some bad experiences with some haughty b*tches while you were there, but feminism is definitely not entrenched in contemporary Chinese society. On your study trips you likely only met and mingled with a very small, very priviliged, percentage of the population. You gotta remember that anybody in China who has even an intermediate grasp of the English language, a drop in the ocean relatively speaking, is going to be a far cry from an accurate reflection of Chinese society at large. A lot of these people have been exposed to Western culture/values/ideologies because they've spent a couple years studying abroad themselves. If not you can be sure that they've spent countless hours over multiple years emmersing themselves in English by soaking up Western media, usually through the use of a VPN.

Here's some things to think about. In China it's a woman's responsibility to ensure she doesn't get pregnant. There's no such thing as forced child support payments. It doesn't matter if a paeticular man's the unwed belly sweller of 30 different sl*ts. It's a woman's responsibility to keep from getting pregnant and it's her responsibility to abort it if she does. If she wants to have and raise it then that's on her. I'm not saying I advocate abortion. That's just the way it is. There's no such thing as alimony either. A woman in China's SOL if she she can't support herself in the event of a divorce. It doesn't matter who initiated it, what the circumstances were, or how rich her ex husband is. Another thing is nobody in China's gonna prosecute a man for beating his wife unless she's been grievously injured. A broken jaw and a few broken ribs usually won't be enough to cut it.

Even if the idea of Western feminism exists within the minds of a few specially indulged members of Chinese society it still could never thrive there. There's nothing to stop a man from maintaining his authority as head of the houshold by any means necessary. People in China won't intervene in domestic disputes. Even if a man is beating and dragging his wife through the streets the police will be very reluctant to physically get involved. They might politely try reasoning with him to get him to stop but, unless it's in the metropolitan area of a first tier city like Shanghai where Western tourists are likely to be about, they're most likely not gonna touch the man if he keeps on beating her. While this doesn't happen a lot, and I'm not advocating violence either, these things do tend to keep women in check.

Look, I'm not trying to kiss China's ass or anything. I hate communism. I'm just saying that there's a lot of good values that still exist there that can't be found anywhere else in the world without going to the middle east or different parts of Africa. It's got nothing to do with politics.
I would say lets agree to disagree, but I find myself agreeing with much of what you say and where I still do not fully agree, you raise some good points. Your reply is rational and very much true. I like to be proven wrong, but systems are so complex and large it is impossible to say so for sure. Although I feel you are probably right at least to some degree.
 
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