I'd like to help.

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
Hey guys, quick bit of background info about me before I get to the point.

I'm 30 years old, have had a few steady gfs over the past couple of years.
From the ages of 8 to 16 I was severely bullied in school, (never physical though because I was quite tall) from the age of 12 I thought I was ugly, I used to cry myself to sleep at night wondering why everyone hated me and why girls treated me like some kind of disease and didn't even want to associate with me. (There were a few I feel took pity on me and hung out but I always felt it was their way of doing a good deed for the day or something)

Anyway I spent the years from 16 to 20 trying to get laid and failing pretty much every time because I was so unsocialised.

From 20+ I had a Japanese girlfriend who started off as a penfriend and she came over and lived with me for a bit on and off for two years.

After that I started learning about PUAs and admittedly was very interested in their technique etc.

So now here's the point. For the past 7 years I have had literally no problems with women. I'd like to help any of you that feel life isn't going to get any better. I have a few bits of advice I can give if anyone wants to hear it. I think a lot of you are misunderstood and being labelled a pariah by society can easily turn anyone bitter.

I'm not doing this for any other reason than I want to prove the mainstream media is wrong to myself. I too have had hero fantasies, cried myself to sleep. Turned off my emotions to the world and even hated women at one point.

If anyone is interested in what I have to say just reply to this with 'moar' or anything along the same vein. You're not hopeless. Most people's emotional and personal growth stunts after their 20s and they never really get any better. You can catch up.
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
Flair said:
Hey guys, quick bit of background info about me before I get to the point.

I'm 30 years old, have had a few steady gfs over the past couple of years.
From the ages of 8 to 16 I was severely bullied in school, (never physical though because I was quite tall) from the age of 12 I thought I was ugly, I used to cry myself to sleep at night wondering why everyone hated me and why girls treated me like some kind of disease and didn't even want to associate with me. (There were a few I feel took pity on me and hung out but I always felt it was their way of doing a good deed for the day or something)

Anyway I spent the years from 16 to 20 trying to get laid and failing pretty much every time because I was so unsocialised.

From 20+ I had a Japanese girlfriend who started off as a penfriend and she came over and lived with me for a bit on and off for two years.

After that I started learning about PUAs and admittedly was very interested in their technique etc.

So now here's the point. For the past 7 years I have had literally no problems with women. I'd like to help any of you that feel life isn't going to get any better. I have a few bits of advice I can give if anyone wants to hear it. I think a lot of you are misunderstood and being labelled a pariah by society can easily turn anyone bitter.

I'm not doing this for any other reason than I want to prove the mainstream media is wrong to myself. I too have had hero fantasies, cried myself to sleep. Turned off my emotions to the world and even hated women at one point.

If anyone is interested in what I have to say just reply to this with 'moar' or anything along the same vein. You're not hopeless. Most people's emotional and personal growth stunts after their 20s and they never really get any better. You can catch up.
The only way to help me is to transform my ugly appearance into a good looking one. That's not possible, so I cannot be helped. PUAs preach this whole confidence, game, positivity bullshit. We all know that means nothing to women when it's not backed up by good looks. Good looks are everything when it comes to women. Men don't have such high standards as women. A lot of us settle for what we can get. Women are evil by nature and I'm starting to not even want one in my life because I'm starting to see just how narcissistic and cruel they are. Had I actually managed to get a girlfriend, the second we go out and Chad flirts with her (or Chadlite or even some random above average looking normie) she will be swooning and would no longer want me. If I had a girlfriend I'd have to hide her from the world and keep our life secluded just so she doesn't get stolen from me. It's too much work.
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
That mindset is really just insecurity. May I ask what good qualities you think you have? If you had to describe yourself in 3 words what would they be?
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
Flair said:
That mindset is really just insecurity. May I ask what good qualities you think you have? If you had to describe yourself in 3 words what would they be?
If I was a sexy, insecure man, I'd get a girlfriend. Being ugly and insecure is a deadly combination. If someone is sexy, it doesn't matter if they're a woman beater, murderer, rаpist, etc...they'll still have women want them. If someone is ugly but has a kind heart, endearing personality, loving nature, etc, women will treat him as if HE is the murderer, rаpist, woman beater. You need to know that appearance is the deciding factor when it comes to fucking/being in a relationship.

I have no good qualities. I struggle with finding ANYTHING worthy about me or this world. To me there's simply nothing good in existence.

Describing myself in three words:

Ugly, lonely, failure
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
Genetics do play a part but they arent the be all and end all.

You're completely right that being ugly and insecure is a deadly combination. But I think you'll find that after your late 20s this starts to change drastically for women, one thing the PUA community has right is that men get more attractive with age and women are the opposite. They hit the wall around 35 and their social value drops significantly. Women are just like you, you're attracted to the 'hot' girls just as they're attracted to the 'hot' guys. There's nothing wrong with that at all, however it doesn't help with insecurity.

You need to find something you define yourself with. Even if it's as vanilla as being good at a video game. You have to take active steps to make yourself better than you are, no one will love you if you refuse to try to love yourself. How old are you btw?
 

TheUnworthy

Incels.Net Regular
Dude, I'm going to be honest with you and, if you are no coward or you really are the person you want us to believe, then you'll read what I have to say.
I'm going to tell you a story first, it's about bears:
On a certain forest, two male bears where discussing about female bears. These bears weren't enemies or reacted to themselves as other bears would do: they were friends.
One of them, was your typical big bear with a beautiful brown-colored fur. He was strong and has already mated with dozens of female bears.
The other one, is a strange example on that species. While he also has brown fur, his isn't as pure as his friend's brown fur. His brown fur looks more grey than brown actually, given him a horrible appearance. He isn't strong, or at least he doesn't look strong. He looks tiny and skinny for a bear. He hasn't mate with other female bears.
Returning to their conversation, the big bear (let's call him Chad) is telling his obviously not good-looking friend(let's call him Brandon) how easy is to mate with female bears "You just have make them laugh" he would say one time.
Brandon did try, though the females didn't seemed to find him funny. Worse, they would actually looked at him as a dirty bear, like he was a failure to his entire species
"Be honest with them" Chad told Brandon in other occasion. Brandon did as his friend advised and was honest with females, they still rejected him or offer him their friendship (as if Brandon didn't have friends already!).
"Just be positive" Chad told Brandon this time, both of them resting on the most popular place for bears in the forest. There were alot of female bears and Chad decided Brandon should give a try there "Maybe your negativity is what drove them away from you. Females like males who would bring smiles and always speak good and funny stuff" Chad said with a toothy smile.
Brandon cursed to himself as he knew he was indeed positive as he approached them. Brandon has follow every single advise Chad gave him, looking for any mistake he would commit.
As Brandon was still thinking, a female approached to them. Chad gave his friend a toothy smile as he'd whispered "She's coming to speak to you"
As she finally reached them, Brandon notice how she (Stacy) was beautiful. Maybe the most beautiful fenale he has seen in his entire life. Her honey colored fur only make her even more beautiful in his eyes.
Brandon followed his friend's advises and started to put in practice everything. Everything.
Still, the female seemed to have her eyes on Chad who was laughing and was following her advances. Few times she placed her gaze on Brandon, and Brandon felt the same feeling he would feel when the cold winter wind touched him.
At the end, Chad patted his shoulder on Brandon and left the place with Stacy. Brandon was left alone, to see how other bears were walked through the forest with their mates at their side. He was alone. Completely alone, no one wanted to speak with him. No one wanted to love him. He saw the sun banishing in the dark. Now he wasn't alone for darkness and solitude accompany the night, and Brandon has always been accompanied by the night.
If you actually reached this point (which I doubt you'd), you may wondering what's the purpose of this story.
All incels, doesn't matter their race, the reasons of why they are incels (though most of them share the same main reason) are Brandon. Some, like myself, maybe had laid with whores to see what is feels to be inside of a woman. Some are still virgins.
Chad is the epitome of what a woman looks on a man. Women don't care about intelligence, emotions, honor or anything they would find "boring" (aka all that isn't being a fuckboy or a trait related to it). Women looks for a Chad who could satisfy their sexual desires, not caring if that one is good to her at all. Some look men only for money instead of the former.
None of them care about love or your desires. If you aren't Chad or at least share a common characteristic with Chad, forget about anything with a woman. Seriously.
Now you would probably think "Then why some normies have sex or a girlfriend if they aren't Chads huh?!"
My answer to that hypothetical statement is that normies actually have some characteristics Chad have, but not as strong as Chad have them. Chad is the evolution of this characteristics, the advanced form of them.
You are born a Chad, you can't become a Chad. The same happens with Incels. You are born an Incel and you can't change that.
Men who aren't Chads can still try to be Chads, but they can't. They can learn or imitate some characteristics of Chad they didn't knew or have before, but they'll always be normies.
Incels are ugly. Ugly as Brandon is and that's why we can imitate Chad as Normies would do. Incels are lonely because of their ugliness and yet we are often regarded as terrorists because of some stupid guys who decided to kill people instead of deal with it like the rest of us.
Incels are only accompanied by the night, who is also accompanied by loneliness and sorrow.
Incels are the low of the low in this world, loved by few and hate by many. Not because of our attitude or whatever you want to spit about us (most of us have a "nice persona" facade in order to deal with people even if they treat us like animals), but because we are ugly.
Ugliness is the only thing in the world you can't actually remove from yourself, making us hopeless.
That's all. You think we aren't hopeless? You should think about my answer then. Think before you spit the same stuff all of us heard over and over, stuff you probably heard yourself back in the day (if you are actually a "former" incel and not some troll).
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
Flair said:
Genetics do play a part but they arent the be all and end all.

You're completely right that being ugly and insecure is a deadly combination. But I think you'll find that after your late 20s this starts to change drastically for women, one thing the PUA community has right is that men get more attractive with age and women are the opposite. They hit the wall around 35 and their social value drops significantly. Women are just like you, you're attracted to the 'hot' girls just as they're attracted to the 'hot' guys. There's nothing wrong with that at all, however it doesn't help with insecurity.

You need to find something you define yourself with. Even if it's as vanilla as being good at a video game. You have to take active steps to make yourself better than you are, no one will love you if you refuse to try to love yourself. How old are you btw?
Haha, the "no one will love you until you love yourself" line. Classic!
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
TheUnworthy said:
Dude, I'm going to be honest with you and, if you are no coward or you really are the person you want us to believe, then you'll read what I have to say.
I'm going to tell you a story first, it's about bears:
On a certain forest, two male bears where discussing about female bears. These bears weren't enemies or reacted to themselves as other bears would do: they were friends.
One of them, was your typical big bear with a beautiful brown-colored fur. He was strong and has already mated with dozens of female bears.
The other one, is a strange example on that species. While he also has brown fur, his isn't as pure as his friend's brown fur. His brown fur looks more grey than brown actually, given him a horrible appearance. He isn't strong, or at least he doesn't look strong. He looks tiny and skinny for a bear. He hasn't mate with other female bears.
Returning to their conversation, the big bear (let's call him Chad) is telling his obviously not good-looking friend(let's call him Brandon) how easy is to mate with female bears "You just have make them laugh" he would say one time.
Brandon did try, though the females didn't seemed to find him funny. Worse, they would actually looked at him as a dirty bear, like he was a failure to his entire species
"Be honest with them" Chad told Brandon in other occasion. Brandon did as his friend advised and was honest with females, they still rejected him or offer him their friendship (as if Brandon didn't have friends already!).
"Just be positive" Chad told Brandon this time, both of them resting on the most popular place for bears in the forest. There were alot of female bears and Chad decided Brandon should give a try there "Maybe your negativity is what drove them away from you. Females like males who would bring smiles and always speak good and funny stuff" Chad said with a toothy smile.
Brandon cursed to himself as he knew he was indeed positive as he approached them. Brandon has follow every single advise Chad gave him, looking for any mistake he would commit.
As Brandon was still thinking, a female approached to them. Chad gave his friend a toothy smile as he'd whispered "She's coming to speak to you"
As she finally reached them, Brandon notice how she (Stacy) was beautiful. Maybe the most beautiful fenale he has seen in his entire life. Her honey colored fur only make her even more beautiful in his eyes.
Brandon followed his friend's advises and started to put in practice everything. Everything.
Still, the female seemed to have her eyes on Chad who was laughing and was following her advances. Few times she placed her gaze on Brandon, and Brandon felt the same feeling he would feel when the cold winter wind touched him.
At the end, Chad patted his shoulder on Brandon and left the place with Stacy. Brandon was left alone, to see how other bears were walked through the forest with their mates at their side. He was alone. Completely alone, no one wanted to speak with him. No one wanted to love him. He saw the sun banishing in the dark. Now he wasn't alone for darkness and solitude accompany the night, and Brandon has always been accompanied by the night.
If you actually reached this point (which I doubt you'd), you may wondering what's the purpose of this story.
All incels, doesn't matter their race, the reasons of why they are incels (though most of them share the same main reason) are Brandon. Some, like myself, maybe had laid with wh*res to see what is feels to be inside of a woman. Some are still virgins.
Chad is the epitome of what a woman looks on a man. Women don't care about intelligence, emotions, honor or anything they would find "boring" (aka all that isn't being a fuckboy or a trait related to it). Women looks for a Chad who could satisfy their sexual desires, not caring if that one is good to her at all. Some look men only for money instead of the former.
None of them care about love or your desires. If you aren't Chad or at least share a common characteristic with Chad, forget about anything with a woman. Seriously.
Now you would probably think "Then why some normies have sex or a girlfriend if they aren't Chads huh?!"
My answer to that hypothetical statement is that normies actually have some characteristics Chad have, but not as strong as Chad have them. Chad is the evolution of this characteristics, the advanced form of them.
You are born a Chad, you can't become a Chad. The same happens with Incels. You are born an Incel and you can't change that.
Men who aren't Chads can still try to be Chads, but they can't. They can learn or imitate some characteristics of Chad they didn't knew or have before, but they'll always be normies.
Incels are ugly. Ugly as Brandon is and that's why we can imitate Chad as Normies would do. Incels are lonely because of their ugliness and yet we are often regarded as terrorists because of some stupid guys who decided to kill people instead of deal with it like the rest of us.
Incels are only accompanied by the night, who is also accompanied by loneliness and sorrow.
Incels are the low of the low in this world, loved by few and hate by many. Not because of our attitude or whatever you want to spit about us (most of us have a "nice persona" facade in order to deal with people even if they treat us like animals), but because we are ugly.
Ugliness is the only thing in the world you can't actually remove from yourself, making us hopeless.
That's all. You think we aren't hopeless? You should think about my answer then. Think before you spit the same stuff all of us heard over and over, stuff you probably heard yourself back in the day (if you are actually a "former" incel and not some troll).
Fucking perfectly said
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
TheUnworthy said:
Dude, I'm going to be honest with you and, if you are no coward or you really are the person you want us to believe, then you'll read what I have to say.
I'm going to tell you a story first, it's about bears:
On a certain forest, two male bears where discussing about female bears. These bears weren't enemies or reacted to themselves as other bears would do: they were friends.
One of them, was your typical big bear with a beautiful brown-colored fur. He was strong and has already mated with dozens of female bears.
The other one, is a strange example on that species. While he also has brown fur, his isn't as pure as his friend's brown fur. His brown fur looks more grey than brown actually, given him a horrible appearance. He isn't strong, or at least he doesn't look strong. He looks tiny and skinny for a bear. He hasn't mate with other female bears.
Returning to their conversation, the big bear (let's call him Chad) is telling his obviously not good-looking friend(let's call him Brandon) how easy is to mate with female bears "You just have make them laugh" he would say one time.
Brandon did try, though the females didn't seemed to find him funny. Worse, they would actually looked at him as a dirty bear, like he was a failure to his entire species
"Be honest with them" Chad told Brandon in other occasion. Brandon did as his friend advised and was honest with females, they still rejected him or offer him their friendship (as if Brandon didn't have friends already!).
"Just be positive" Chad told Brandon this time, both of them resting on the most popular place for bears in the forest. There were alot of female bears and Chad decided Brandon should give a try there "Maybe your negativity is what drove them away from you. Females like males who would bring smiles and always speak good and funny stuff" Chad said with a toothy smile.
Brandon cursed to himself as he knew he was indeed positive as he approached them. Brandon has follow every single advise Chad gave him, looking for any mistake he would commit.
As Brandon was still thinking, a female approached to them. Chad gave his friend a toothy smile as he'd whispered "She's coming to speak to you"
As she finally reached them, Brandon notice how she (Stacy) was beautiful. Maybe the most beautiful fenale he has seen in his entire life. Her honey colored fur only make her even more beautiful in his eyes.
Brandon followed his friend's advises and started to put in practice everything. Everything.
Still, the female seemed to have her eyes on Chad who was laughing and was following her advances. Few times she placed her gaze on Brandon, and Brandon felt the same feeling he would feel when the cold winter wind touched him.
At the end, Chad patted his shoulder on Brandon and left the place with Stacy. Brandon was left alone, to see how other bears were walked through the forest with their mates at their side. He was alone. Completely alone, no one wanted to speak with him. No one wanted to love him. He saw the sun banishing in the dark. Now he wasn't alone for darkness and solitude accompany the night, and Brandon has always been accompanied by the night.
If you actually reached this point (which I doubt you'd), you may wondering what's the purpose of this story.
All incels, doesn't matter their race, the reasons of why they are incels (though most of them share the same main reason) are Brandon. Some, like myself, maybe had laid with wh*res to see what is feels to be inside of a woman. Some are still virgins.
Chad is the epitome of what a woman looks on a man. Women don't care about intelligence, emotions, honor or anything they would find "boring" (aka all that isn't being a fuckboy or a trait related to it). Women looks for a Chad who could satisfy their sexual desires, not caring if that one is good to her at all. Some look men only for money instead of the former.
None of them care about love or your desires. If you aren't Chad or at least share a common characteristic with Chad, forget about anything with a woman. Seriously.
Now you would probably think "Then why some normies have sex or a girlfriend if they aren't Chads huh?!"
My answer to that hypothetical statement is that normies actually have some characteristics Chad have, but not as strong as Chad have them. Chad is the evolution of this characteristics, the advanced form of them.
You are born a Chad, you can't become a Chad. The same happens with Incels. You are born an Incel and you can't change that.
Men who aren't Chads can still try to be Chads, but they can't. They can learn or imitate some characteristics of Chad they didn't knew or have before, but they'll always be normies.
Incels are ugly. Ugly as Brandon is and that's why we can imitate Chad as Normies would do. Incels are lonely because of their ugliness and yet we are often regarded as terrorists because of some stupid guys who decided to kill people instead of deal with it like the rest of us.
Incels are only accompanied by the night, who is also accompanied by loneliness and sorrow.
Incels are the low of the low in this world, loved by few and hate by many. Not because of our attitude or whatever you want to spit about us (most of us have a "nice persona" facade in order to deal with people even if they treat us like animals), but because we are ugly.
Ugliness is the only thing in the world you can't actually remove from yourself, making us hopeless.
That's all. You think we aren't hopeless? You should think about my answer then. Think before you spit the same stuff all of us heard over and over, stuff you probably heard yourself back in the day (if you are actually a "former" incel and not some troll).
I read your whole message and I do understand where you're coming from. However let me give you another example, let's say Brandon is really good at catching fish, or knows how to get honey from a hive. How did he learn this? Because rather than fucking bears all the time he was out bettering himself for himself. This is the thing I'm trying to get across. You're right no one can make themselves a 'Chad' and it's pointless to try. But I do really think that everyone is a genius at something. I don't think you're all no hopers with nothing going for them like the media portrays. I think you all have skills that you've forgotten because the biological need to procreate has obscured it from you with late teen/early adult hormones.

It wasn't until I stopped trying to appease everyone and started calling out people's bullshit to their face, especially women, that I even got any attention from women.

Now I'm not saying just go round calling out all women for being sluts. That is just stupid. You have to have a bit of finesse and guile to pull it off. The problem is that tv screens are filled with perfect archetypes of men and that is what you will be compared to. And to make it even worse social skills seem so easy to pull off (I mean it's just saying words right?) But the emotional strain is the biggest hurdle. Saying things in the right tone, at the right time, hiding insecurity. It's a minefield.

The world didn't advance because 'chads' fucked stacys that just kept it going. The world advanced because of incels like Isaac Newton. You'd do well to remember that next time you feel like you're no good.
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
WelcomeToMyDNA said:
Flair said:
Genetics do play a part but they arent the be all and end all.

You're completely right that being ugly and insecure is a deadly combination. But I think you'll find that after your late 20s this starts to change drastically for women, one thing the PUA community has right is that men get more attractive with age and women are the opposite. They hit the wall around 35 and their social value drops significantly. Women are just like you, you're attracted to the 'hot' girls just as they're attracted to the 'hot' guys. There's nothing wrong with that at all, however it doesn't help with insecurity.

You need to find something you define yourself with. Even if it's as vanilla as being good at a video game. You have to take active steps to make yourself better than you are, no one will love you if you refuse to try to love yourself. How old are you btw?
Haha, the "no one will love you until you love yourself" line. Classic!
But it really is true dude. No one wants someone that they have to support all the time. It's no different than a woman wanting a cuck to support her 3 kids from one night stands.

Look I know it's hard to hear but you have to find SOMETHING about yourself that can cling on to. Something that gives YOU purpose. Women are a nice extra, the focus should be on you and how you can make your life better.
 

TheUnworthy

Incels.Net Regular
As I said, some of us are "nice" on public. Being nice doesn't mean you try to appease anyone.
I'm honest, probably the most honest person you could meet. But I'm also shrewd enough to notice when how I'm supposed to act according to certain people.
That being said, I do point out everybody's behaviour.
The thing is I use nice words and have a small smile as I said them. That way, people understand my point and they can't complain about me being rude.
Also, inceldom is something explicitly about sexual behaviour. Other problems not related to sexuality are a different subject.
Some of us aren't hopeless in other aspects of our lives, some of us are. And neither of them is what make us incels.
We are incels because we all share a common struggle.
A struggle related to sexuality. I'm going to enter to a good college because I won a scholarship. That makes me less of an incel? Of course not.
I'm as much as of an incel as the guy who can't drive.
I'm as much as of an incel of the guy who can't get a job or the guy who suffers from a disease who left him as a cripple.
We all are ugly. We all can't get a girlfriend or can't get laid unless we require the service of a prostіtute.
Isaac Newton was..."fond" would be the correct use? Of a "friend" he had. A male friend who often he would write to about everything, and vice versa.
Even if they were lovers, Isaac Newton was known to be a bitter and unhappy man. So he helped the world at the cost of his own happiness.
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
Flair said:
WelcomeToMyDNA said:
Flair said:
Genetics do play a part but they arent the be all and end all.

You're completely right that being ugly and insecure is a deadly combination. But I think you'll find that after your late 20s this starts to change drastically for women, one thing the PUA community has right is that men get more attractive with age and women are the opposite. They hit the wall around 35 and their social value drops significantly. Women are just like you, you're attracted to the 'hot' girls just as they're attracted to the 'hot' guys. There's nothing wrong with that at all, however it doesn't help with insecurity.

You need to find something you define yourself with. Even if it's as vanilla as being good at a video game. You have to take active steps to make yourself better than you are, no one will love you if you refuse to try to love yourself. How old are you btw?
Haha, the "no one will love you until you love yourself" line. Classic!
But it really is true dude. No one wants someone that they have to support all the time. It's no different than a woman wanting a cuck to support her 3 kids from one night stands.

Look I know it's hard to hear but you have to find SOMETHING about yourself that can cling on to. Something that gives YOU purpose. Women are a nice extra, the focus should be on you and how you can make your life better.
Bro, you're saying all this because you get pussy. You have a reason to be confident. You can get women. I can't. How can a failure be confident? Tell me that. What's a loser supposed to be confident about? A girl is just going to look at him and go, "eww, look at that ugly ass loser! He's so full of himself!"
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
TheUnworthy said:
As I said, some of us are "nice" on public. Being nice doesn't mean you try to appease anyone.
I'm honest, probably the most honest person you could meet. But I'm also shrewd enough to notice when how I'm supposed to act according to certain people.
That being said, I do point out everybody's behaviour.
The thing is I use nice words and have a small smile as I said them. That way, people understand my point and they can't complain about me being rude.
Also, inceldom is something explicitly about sexual behaviour. Other problems not related to sexuality are a different subject.
Some of us aren't hopeless in other aspects of our lives, some of us are. And neither of them is what make us incels.
We are incels because we all share a common struggle.
A struggle related to sexuality. I'm going to enter to a good college because I won a scholarship. That makes me less of an incel? Of course not.
I'm as much as of an incel as the guy who can't drive.
I'm as much as of an incel of the guy who can't get a job or the guy who suffers from a disease who left him as a cripple.
We all are ugly. We all can't get a girlfriend or can't get laid unless we require the service of a prostіtute.
Isaac Newton was..."fond" would be the correct use? Of a "friend" he had. A male friend who often he would write to about everything, and vice versa.
Even if they were lovers, Isaac Newton was known to be a bitter and unhappy man. So he helped the world at the cost of his own happiness.
If you're able to do all that then what holds you back? In your own opinion besides 'being ugly' what stops women from say going on a date with you?
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
WelcomeToMyDNA said:
Flair said:
WelcomeToMyDNA said:
Haha, the "no one will love you until you love yourself" line. Classic!
But it really is true dude. No one wants someone that they have to support all the time. It's no different than a woman wanting a cuck to support her 3 kids from one night stands.

Look I know it's hard to hear but you have to find SOMETHING about yourself that can cling on to. Something that gives YOU purpose. Women are a nice extra, the focus should be on you and how you can make your life better.
Bro, you're saying all this because you get pussy. You have a reason to be confident. You can get women. I can't. How can a failure be confident? Tell me that. What's a loser supposed to be confident about? A girl is just going to look at him and go, "eww, look at that ugly ass loser! He's so full of himself!"
Because it's not all about looks bro. You seem quite articulate and you're obviously not stupid. So here's the secret; we're all insecure. Incels are insecure about their looks chads are insecure about their intelligence/dick size women are insecure about hitting the wall. Everyone is insecure about something. You have to try to ignore it. Which is why I'm saying pick something to define yourself with. If we all dwelled on our insecurities we'd be fucked.

I'm not here to tell you you're beautiful I'm here to tell you that no one is. Everyone has massive flaws that are increasingly better hidden with technology.

Don't let the people who judge you by your flaws have any power. You're the only judge and jury you need.
 

TheUnworthy

Incels.Net Regular
Ugliness is the only thing they don't like about me.
"Maybe you bore them" is a generic statement I hear to often. Do you know how many boring Chads get laid or have a girlfriend? We wouldn't know the answer, but I bet most of Chads are boring.
If I bore a women because of how I'm, then all women are stupid (which I think they are not. They are cunning and ruthless, a stupid person don't have those characteristics). I may not be the most funny or attractive boy, but I do have feelings.
I do have interesting stuff to share, not only superficial stupidity most Chads talk about.
Even then, I still know some superficial stupidity that I DO NOT like in order to have something to speak with women.
That haven't work as well. And you know why I know they are in the wrong and I'm not? I made an experiment.
For four months I faked to be a gay man on dating apps or went to gay antros. I'm straight, but I'm not bother by the fact of a man hitting on me.
You know? My ig didn't work well because I get alot of messages from men. Same thing with other social media.
I was obviously passing as gay, a person with brains would have notice that (two of them notice after a time though) and yet men craved for my attention.
Are you completely sure is our fault now? Are you still on denial because you can get laid?
 

Flair

Incels.Net Junior
TheUnworthy said:
Ugliness is the only thing they don't like about me.
"Maybe you bore them" is a generic statement I hear to often. Do you know how many boring Chads get laid or have a girlfriend? We wouldn't know the answer, but I bet most of Chads are boring.
If I bore a women because of how I'm, then all women are stupid (which I think they are not. They are cunning and ruthless, a stupid person don't have those characteristics). I may not be the most funny or attractive boy, but I do have feelings.
I do have interesting stuff to share, not only superficial stupidity most Chads talk about.
Even then, I still know some superficial stupidity that I DO NOT like in order to have something to speak with women.
That haven't work as well. And you know why I know they are in the wrong and I'm not? I made an experiment.
For four months I faked to be a gay man on dating apps or went to gay antros. I'm straight, but I'm not bother by the fact of a man hitting on me.
You know? My ig didn't work well because I get alot of messages from men. Same thing with other social media.
I was obviously passing as gay, a person with brains would have notice that (two of them notice after a time though) and yet men craved for my attention.
Are you completely sure is our fault now? Are you still on denial because you can get laid?
It's not your fault. But just because it's not your fault doesn't mean you have to accept it and do nothing about it. I don't want any of you to go so far down the rabbit hole that you never trust women again or hurt yourself.

The reality is most people are stupid. They act on impulse then make up justification retroactively.
Women are not vindictive on the whole. Most of them are just weaker than men. Your experiment with gay men doesn't prove anything other than women are less likely to initiate anything. That's not because of you dude, trust me no woman worth having will hit you up first. The ones that do are pretty much just slags with no standards.

Am I right in thinking all you guys want is a girl you can be honest with and who loves you? Because that's a perfectly reasonable goal to have.
 

TheUnworthy

Incels.Net Regular
You are mistaken. We aren't going down into a rabbit hole, we are going up. We are leaving the rabbile hole
Accepting our reality is the actual ladder that would takes us out of that optimistic hole you want to cast us in.
Realism is the ladder itself, which would lead us to accepting everything as it is. People who often give this type of advises (the ones you are giving us. Advises that probably annoy you back in the day) are like winds who try to make us give up so we have to fall into the hole.
While some of your blue-pilled arguments are frequent, some of them aren't. For that I congratulate you. You aren't a stupid man.
My experiment with gay men actually worked. I just gave you a small part of information about it and for that I'm sorry. I wrote everything on papers I don't have at the moment and it's quite difficult to remember everything that I notice. Not to mention to long to write hear.
I did hit on many men and many were willing to meet with this "hot boy" as some of them pointed out. A few of them got excited with my words and send me a cockpic. (I blocked those because no woman would ever send you a nude if you don't asked them to. They weren't relevant to my experiment)
Many here would like to emulate Chad, I can only speak for myself. Yes, I want a woman who loves me.
I want a woman who would fuck me without paying her.
I want a woman who can make me happy and who would let me make her happy too.
I want a woman who can speak to me about everything and never get tired or bored of what I'm telling her.
I want a woman who would be honest and faithful to me.
I want a woman with whom I can spend the rest of my life
I want a woman who can accompany me on my solitude.
I want a women because I want love and I wanto to love back.
I want a woman because I don't want to die alone as my maternal great-grandfather did because of his Chad-like life
 

WelcomeToMyDNA

I am who I am and I can be no other
Flair said:
TheUnworthy said:
Ugliness is the only thing they don't like about me.
"Maybe you bore them" is a generic statement I hear to often. Do you know how many boring Chads get laid or have a girlfriend? We wouldn't know the answer, but I bet most of Chads are boring.
If I bore a women because of how I'm, then all women are stupid (which I think they are not. They are cunning and ruthless, a stupid person don't have those characteristics). I may not be the most funny or attractive boy, but I do have feelings.
I do have interesting stuff to share, not only superficial stupidity most Chads talk about.
Even then, I still know some superficial stupidity that I DO NOT like in order to have something to speak with women.
That haven't work as well. And you know why I know they are in the wrong and I'm not? I made an experiment.
For four months I faked to be a gay man on dating apps or went to gay antros. I'm straight, but I'm not bother by the fact of a man hitting on me.
You know? My ig didn't work well because I get alot of messages from men. Same thing with other social media.
I was obviously passing as gay, a person with brains would have notice that (two of them notice after a time though) and yet men craved for my attention.
Are you completely sure is our fault now? Are you still on denial because you can get laid?
It's not your fault. But just because it's not your fault doesn't mean you have to accept it and do nothing about it. I don't want any of you to go so far down the rabbit hole that you never trust women again or hurt yourself.

The reality is most people are stupid. They act on impulse then make up justification retroactively.
Women are not vindictive on the whole. Most of them are just weaker than men. Your experiment with gay men doesn't prove anything other than women are less likely to initiate anything. That's not because of you dude, trust me no woman worth having will hit you up first. The ones that do are pretty much just slags with no standards.

Am I right in thinking all you guys want is a girl you can be honest with and who loves you? Because that's a perfectly reasonable goal to have.

Yes I want a girl who loves me and that I love. That won't happen because I'm hideous. Why would a woman choose to be with a hideous man when she has literally billions of other options? It makes no sense. I have already accepted that I'll be permacel and eternalcel. No getting out of this. I'm trapped in an ugly shell. I cannot leave this body and get a different one. This is the ugly shell I was given and I must deal with it. I only hope my death isn't so painful like my life was.
 

Theflair

Incels.Net Junior
Sorry guys. An admin has banned me. I made another account just to let you know I didn't abandon you, rather I was forced to. I hope they unban me but if they don't then I implore you to try to get hold of me and we can try to work some things out for you.

There is no reason any of you shouldn't get what you want if that's all you're after. And if I get unbanned I'll continue posting and please feel free to call me out on any 'blue pill' bullshit I spew.

I don't want to offend anyone and any comments I made that seem flippant are usually just due to not understanding enough
 
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