How would you describe yourself? What 2 things would you change?

[ItheIncel]

How would you describe yourself, and what 2 things (other than looks) would you change about yourself if you could?

I'm not a good person, I've grew up from a lovely child to an anxious absolute horrible person, that also happens to be a potential murderer. Firstly my parents and then society made me like this. At least this society also gave me a gift to see through bullshit. I appreciate that.
But it also gave me high level of anxieties that stop me from living my life and eventually depression and lack of self esteem.

As bad looking I am, I'm pretty sure I'd get women, good social life, and better education if I just didn't catch this disorder called anxiety and social anxiety. It stops me from living, on every way.

Generally, I can't be myself around people, unless I get to know them before and feel more comfortable with myself. That is my burden. And not many people have ever let me have that chance, but rather think of me as an creep with no IQ. And they couldn't be more wrong..

As much as I hate myself, I also love myself. I do have a great personality, I do have something worth inside of me, but this society has never let me come up to my full potential. Back when I wasn't this bad with mental health, I was great in math for example, and a good student in general. And right now, I don't even go to college because of my illnesses and disgusting people that made me this way. I do wish to torture them.

Lastly, about those women that keep telling us that we should fix our personality issues (anger, bitterness, hate..)
Yeah, women don't like men that are bitter and angry to their own life. They don't like men that hate themselves. Of course nobody is attracted to a loser. However, many women don't care if you are full of hate and anger to women or anyone else if you happen to be either handsome or extremely confident. That's a fact.

Yes, every woman judge by looks, but if you have that dominant personality or if you know what words to say, they will subconsciously stop doing that from some sort of fear, or whatever it is. Of course if you're ugly, you're ugly and worthless in her eyes until you prove her wrong with your dominance. That's what I've learned with other men, and my online experiences. With that said, it's rare to see an ugly guy being respected by good looking women or women in general because many guys never get to build that confidence and personality, when the girls in your early age call you ugly, make fun of you, and teachers don't even let you punch her when she does that. If I was alloved to defend myself, I'd never have such low self esteem.

What I also want to mention, I've met many women online. Lots of them loved my personality and my voice. Sure, there were those that didn't even try to talk to me because of my looks, and in general I was always in some sort of disadvantage when my pfp was up, but I managed to get them interested. What would be the issue at the end? Well my anxieties and their way of seeing me. They would think I'm this great social guy with lots of friends etc., until a certain topic wouldn't come up and I would tell them about my anxieties and why I wont be as fun if we meet, or comfortable at all. At least in first few times.

Of course they lost interest after that. I don't even blame them. But it hurts, it really does. I've never tried being someone I am not, the fun and interesting me is really there when I'm comfortable. And they've got to meet that guy when were speaking to me on a call.

I've also tried a calm approach, trying to be less interesting to lower their expectations.. And nothing. If you're not good looking, having a strong and fun personality is a must. I had no chance.

To some I've told I had anxieties from the start of conversation, and of course it ended, with showing zero interest in me. Women don't want broken stuff, which is funny as at least 1/3 of women I've met online, have some sort of a baggage.

 

[whohastoknow]

i really feel for you anon. im almost done with high school and the girls there dont even want to look twice at a guy like me, let alone talk. anxiety has kept me from making any friends practically the whole four years. but to answer your question, id describe myself as shy, booksmart, and a loser. but if i could change two things about myself, id definitely want to be able to talk to people without getting nervous or completely mentally freaking out and grow about 12 inches taller. being a 5'1 guy adds to my hell.

 

[Doomer92]

Greetings, fellow incels. This is my first post, so it´s a good way to introduce myself, I guess. No native speaker, so don´t go too hard on me for my imperfect english.

I am white, 26 years old and really not looking that bad. Not very muscular, 6.16ft (188cm) tall and slim. No chad by any means, but I was told to look quite attractive by older women (40+) on several occasions. Don´t like the term milf/cougar, but most of them would fall into that category if you want. Even met a few girls in the range of 4/10 downwards who showed clear signs of having a crush on me. A bit of a nerd, but not too autistic. I find it very easy to socialise (even with girls) and make new friends, altough I´m beginning to lose interest in such things. Most of my friends are in stable relationships by now, and none of them could be described as a chad. Call me a narcissist, but I have quite a reputation for being rather on the smart side. Even won a price for extraordinary accomplishments in philosophy class at school.
It is not my intention to boast about my supposed awesomeness by any means, just to illustrate how arrogant girls are to still reject me the same way as if I was some fat, antisocial basement dweller or something like that.
While it comes to no surprise, that women, who lack the intelligence and depth of mind, do not share nor understand my interest in philosophy, politics, history and classic literature - they also seem not to be susceptible to my more "manly" skills like driving (which I am really good at), computer stuff, or shooting.
I´m the kind of guy who likes sophisticated conversations from dusk till dawn, but can also pretend interest in trivial stuff (the only thing girls talk about all the time) if required.

Like everybody, I have some faults too. None of them justify the contempt girls treat me with, in my opinion. I am rather lazy, prone to depression (not surprising after years and years of female rejection), not the most organised person, like to sleep a lot due to my depression, and a bit lacking in the emotional department (which I can easily cover up).

Two things I would change:
1st: Developing ambitious goals and obtain them aggressively if necessary.
2nd: Stop fapping. This addiction is at this point the only remaining thing submitting me to the curse of female delusion.

So that´s it for now. Thanks for reading.

 

[ortharzeal]

Even met a few girls in the range of 4/10 downwards who showed clear signs of having a crush on me. A bit of a nerd, but not too autistic. I find it very easy to socialise (even with girls) and make new friends, altough I´m beginning to lose interest in such things.

So what would a 4/10 look like in your frame of reference? An example pic, please.

 

[Doomer92]

This one I would consider a 3/10. If I think about it, the ones mentioned in my previous post were too.

The thing is, there are women, especially feminists, who are so ugly there is basically no lower limit to the scale.

 

[ortharzeal]

This one I would consider a 3/10. If I think about it, the ones mentioned in my previous post were too.

Heck, it may be even worse than no IOIs at all tbh.

 

[Doomer92]

What does IOIs mean?

 

[Doomer92]

This one I would consider a 3/10. If I think about it, the ones mentioned in my previous post were too.

Heck, it may be even worse than no IOIs at all tbh.

What does IOIs mean? Sry, I´m a bloody noob.

 

[ortharzeal]

What does IOIs mean? Sry, I´m a bloody noob.

No problem. My fault, I thought most people knew that.
IOI stands for "indication of interest".

 

[Doomer92]

What does IOIs mean? Sry, I´m a bloody noob.

No problem. My fault, I thought most people knew that.
IOI stands for "indication of interest".

Ok, thanks. I saw girls way uglier with a 5/10 boyfriend, so 3/10 seems justified. I like to think of the scale as growing potentially, as it is with the IQ rating.

 

[lordoftheincels]

Greetings, fellow incels. This is my first post, so it´s a good way to introduce myself, I guess. No native speaker, so don´t go too hard on me for my imperfect english.

I am white, 26 years old and really not looking that bad. Not very muscular, 6.16ft (188cm) tall and slim. No chad by any means, but I was told to look quite attractive by older women (40+) on several occasions. Don´t like the term milf/cougar, but most of them would fall into that category if you want. Even met a few girls in the range of 4/10 downwards who showed clear signs of having a crush on me. A bit of a nerd, but not too autistic. I find it very easy to socialise (even with girls) and make new friends, altough I´m beginning to lose interest in such things. Most of my friends are in stable relationships by now, and none of them could be described as a chad. Call me a narcissist, but I have quite a reputation for being rather on the smart side. Even won a price for extraordinary accomplishments in philosophy class at school.
It is not my intention to boast about my supposed awesomeness by any means, just to illustrate how arrogant girls are to still reject me the same way as if I was some fat, antisocial basement dweller or something like that.
While it comes to no surprise, that women, who lack the intelligence and depth of mind, do not share nor understand my interest in philosophy, politics, history and classic literature - they also seem not to be susceptible to my more "manly" skills like driving (which I am really good at), computer stuff, or shooting.
I´m the kind of guy who likes sophisticated conversations from dusk till dawn, but can also pretend interest in trivial stuff (the only thing girls talk about all the time) if required.

Like everybody, I have some faults too. None of them justify the contempt girls treat me with, in my opinion. I am rather lazy, prone to depression (not surprising after years and years of female rejection), not the most organised person, like to sleep a lot due to my depression, and a bit lacking in the emotional department (which I can easily cover up).

Two things I would change:
1st: Developing ambitious goals and obtain them aggressively if necessary.
2nd: Stop fapping. This addiction is at this point the only remaining thing submitting me to the curse of female delusion.

So that´s it for now. Thanks for reading.

Why don't you date those cougars? I wish I had cougars that were interested in me. Also, 4/10 women are not so bad. Better than nobody.

Also word about the intelligence thing. Most girls don't care about intelligence only social status. Although some girls do care about intelligence. But they only go for blue-pilled college professors who are rich and have PhD. Don't know how I'm supposed to compete with that.