has anyone read ERs paper?

Kolibri

Destroyer of Soy
I mean not really. I've read it before. He goes into great detail about his life from when he was born up until right before the shooting. Very eye opening stuff in there though, like his lack of a relationship with his father, and his apparent distaste for his stepmom
 

love

Femoid
notheregoaway said:
I mean not really. I've read it before. He goes into great detail about his life from when he was born up until right before the shooting. Very eye opening stuff in there though, like his lack of a relationship with his father, and his apparent distaste for his stepmom
Yeah I started reading it because I think it’s the only paper written by an incel. So there’s not a lot of options for my paper. Even then it’s not a published journal so it doesn’t really count as a resource.

Im a psychiatric nurse/ therapist I find it hard to read tbh there’s so many warning signs and I’m only like 4 pages in. I don’t know how he was never hospitalised he should have been formed and instituted. He needed serious help.

He was t even ugly he was actually very attractive. But he had a stood up snarky entitled personality that no women wanted to be around. He reminds me of a spoiled rich kid that gets anything they want and when they don’t they have a temper tantrum.
 

Kolibri

Destroyer of Soy
love said:
notheregoaway said:
I mean not really. I've read it before. He goes into great detail about his life from when he was born up until right before the shooting. Very eye opening stuff in there though, like his lack of a relationship with his father, and his apparent distaste for his stepmom
Yeah I started reading it because I think it’s the only paper written by an incel. So there’s not a lot of options for my paper. Even then it’s not a published journal so it doesn’t really count as a resource.

Im a psychiatric nurse/ therapist I find it hard to read tbh there’s so many warning signs and I’m only like 4 pages in. I don’t know how he was never hospitalised he should have been formed and instituted. He needed serious help.

He was t even ugly he was actually very attractive. But he had a stood up snarky entitled personality that no women wanted to be around. He reminds me of a spoiled rich kid that gets anything they want and when they don’t they have a temper tantrum.
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
 

love

Femoid
notheregoaway said:
love said:
notheregoaway said:
I mean not really. I've read it before. He goes into great detail about his life from when he was born up until right before the shooting. Very eye opening stuff in there though, like his lack of a relationship with his father, and his apparent distaste for his stepmom
Yeah I started reading it because I think it’s the only paper written by an incel. So there’s not a lot of options for my paper. Even then it’s not a published journal so it doesn’t really count as a resource.

Im a psychiatric nurse/ therapist I find it hard to read tbh there’s so many warning signs and I’m only like 4 pages in. I don’t know how he was never hospitalised he should have been formed and instituted. He needed serious help.

He was t even ugly he was actually very attractive. But he had a stood up snarky entitled personality that no women wanted to be around. He reminds me of a spoiled rich kid that gets anything they want and when they don’t they have a temper tantrum.
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
true
 

Kolibri

Destroyer of Soy
love said:
notheregoaway said:
love said:
Yeah I started reading it because I think it’s the only paper written by an incel. So there’s not a lot of options for my paper. Even then it’s not a published journal so it doesn’t really count as a resource.

Im a psychiatric nurse/ therapist I find it hard to read tbh there’s so many warning signs and I’m only like 4 pages in. I don’t know how he was never hospitalised he should have been formed and instituted. He needed serious help.

He was t even ugly he was actually very attractive. But he had a stood up snarky entitled personality that no women wanted to be around. He reminds me of a spoiled rich kid that gets anything they want and when they don’t they have a temper tantrum.
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
true
That was the first thing I thought of. "Ellіot, tell people about your dad!" Like I dunno why it seemed to not register in his mind. Maybe because he and his dad's relationship wasn't that great? I dunno.
 

love

Femoid
notheregoaway said:
love said:
notheregoaway said:
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
true
That was the first thing I thought of. "Ellіot, tell people about your dad!" Like I dunno why it seemed to not register in his mind. Maybe because he and his dad's relationship wasn't that great? I dunno.
He had a sense of entitlement. He felt he was owed a women for doing nothing.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
notheregoaway said:
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
This sums it up pretty well. I read some parts of his manifesto because of this thread and want to share my findings below (specifically I read the first few pages and then from mid-page 98 to page 115)

IMO he had decent looks and a good social status. He could afford expensive clothes, he met with celebrities through his parents and went to seemingly expensive vacations (this was all included in the few pages I read in his manifesto). He didn't seem to use any of that to his advantage in any meaningful way though ... he talks a lot about how he hates people more successful than him and how he avoids others because he doesn't want them to know about his lack of success. He thought that he should first gain some kind of status before he would have any value to people ... but failed to see that having friends was the only social status element he was actually missing (girls are more attracted to guys who have many friends and that's how they could have learned about his social status). Instead of socialising he spent a lot of time alone and eventually dropped out of school.

He also had this crazy idea that the only way to fix his life was to get rich at a young age and if that didn't work, he would commit mass murder suіcіde ... and his plan (at least in the parts I read) for getting rich was to buy lottery tickets ... I shit you not ... he spent a big sum of money on lottery tickets many times over. He talked about how miserable he felt every time he lost ... feeling like he deserved to win more than others, almost like he thought his self-entitlement somehow increase his odds of winning. He also read The Secret and some similar book and hoped those methods would help him with winning the lottery.
 

love

Femoid
Curiosity said:
notheregoaway said:
If he had lived in my state he would have gotten all the sex he wanted. Women love those pretty, prissy, entitled brat type of guys here.

All ER had to do to find someone was tell people his father was a movie director. He would have gotten tail flung at him for that, if he was so inclined. But he had the potential and wasted it.

ER wasn't a true incel.
This sums it up pretty well. I read some parts of his manifesto because of this thread and want to share my findings below (specifically I read the first few pages and then from mid-page 98 to page 115)

IMO he had decent looks and a good social status. He could afford expensive clothes, he met with celebrities through his parents and went to seemingly expensive vacations (this was all included in the few pages I read in his manifesto). He didn't seem to use any of that to his advantage in any meaningful way though ... he talks a lot about how he hates people more successful than him and how he avoids others because he doesn't want them to know about his lack of success. He thought that he should first gain some kind of status before he would have any value to people ... but failed to see that having friends was the only social status element he was actually missing (girls are more attracted to guys who have many friends and that's how they could have learned about his social status). Instead of socialising he spent a lot of time alone and eventually dropped out of school.

He also had this crazy idea that the only way to fix his life was to get rich at a young age and if that didn't work, he would commit mass murder suіcіde ... and his plan (at least in the parts I read) for getting rich was to buy lottery tickets ... I ѕhit you not ... he spent a big sum of money on lottery tickets many times over. He talked about how miserable he felt every time he lost ... feeling like he deserved to win more than others, almost like he thought his self-entitlement somehow increase his odds of winning. He also read The Secret and some similar book and hoped those methods would help him with winning the lottery.
Yeah from the parts I read there’s definitely some mental health concerns.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
love said:
Yeah from the parts I read there’s definitely some mental health concerns.
It's a very sad story actually. It's kinda hard to feel sorry for someone who feels such a high level of self-entitlement and hatred and such extreme jealousy towards others, but it's also very sad that someone feels this way.

I feel his way of thinking strongly resembles narcissistic personality disorder ... do you think he might have had it? I'm not really qualified to make such assessments, but from what I've read the symptoms seem to match his worldview and behaviour pretty well. I feel he also matches anti-social personality disorder to some degree, because of his violent tendencies.
 

love

Femoid
Curiosity said:
love said:
Yeah from the parts I read there’s definitely some mental health concerns.
It's a very sad story actually. It's kinda hard to feel sorry for someone who feels such a high level of self-entitlement and hatred and such extreme jealousy towards others, but it's also very sad that someone feels this way.

I feel his way of thinking strongly resembles narcissistic personality disorder ... do you think he might have had it? I'm not really qualified to make such assessments, but from what I've read the symptoms seem to match his worldview and behaviour pretty well. I feel he also matches anti-social personality disorder to some degree, because of his violent tendencies.
I haven’t finished reading it but I wouldn’t be surprised
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
love said:
its so long....is it worth reading?
I read half of it, then stopped because it was too grim and morbid. I don't like grim and morbid things. I'm more of a beast or dragon, I like reading stories about glory warfare, not creepy morbid shit.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
Curiosity said:
love said:
Yeah from the parts I read there’s definitely some mental health concerns.
It's a very sad story actually. It's kinda hard to feel sorry for someone who feels such a high level of self-entitlement and hatred and such extreme jealousy towards others, but it's also very sad that someone feels this way.

I feel his way of thinking strongly resembles narcissistic personality disorder ... do you think he might have had it? I'm not really qualified to make such assessments, but from what I've read the symptoms seem to match his worldview and behaviour pretty well. I feel he also matches anti-social personality disorder to some degree, because of his violent tendencies.
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected. Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are.
 

Curiosity

Incels.Net Novice
lordoftheincels said:
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected.
Yeah, I talked about this in my earlier post ... it's kind of laughable actually. Did he just expect women to randomly knock at his door, asking if he was single? Did he also fail to realise that women usually wait for men to make the first move? They are pretty unlikely to approach you unless either they have some affiliation with you, you are famous, or they are drunk.
lordoftheincels said:
Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are..
23% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Narcissistic personality disorder is more common in men than women from what I've gathered.
 

lordoftheincels

Incels.Net Master
Curiosity said:
lordoftheincels said:
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected.
Yeah, I talked about this in my earlier post ... it's kind of laughable actually. Did he just expect women to randomly knock at his door, asking if he was single? Did he also fail to realise that women usually wait for men to make the first move? They are pretty unlikely to approach you unless either they have some affiliation with you, you are famous, or they are drunk.
lordoftheincels said:
Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are..
23% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Narcissistic personality disorder is more common in men than women from what I've gathered.
It's an agenda by the fake news media to criminalize masculinity and white knight females.

The real reality is that narcissism is a female trait. Most criminal males are feminine minded, called feeble minded many years ago. Criminality, narcissism, etc. is a trait in all males, it's cuck to have no ego and never get mad. The difference between regular males and narcissists is that regular males are self-aware, narcissists aren't. Narcissist males go home, yell at their wife, etc.

From what I can tell (in the real world) is that females are more narcissistic than males. Females are overly sensitive and you have to talk on eggshells around them. Everything in the dating life is centered around females. About how you have to impress a female, earn money for a female, entertain a female, treat a female good, make her happy, etc. The male is just a utilty

Females are giganarcissists that have brainwashed males with it to believe that females are less often narcissists. It's females that spend 5 hours a day in makeup, its females that emotionally manipulate males. Females guilt males and always spin a narrative that males are unworthy, and that a male must prove he isn't worthless. Males are viewed as worthless as the default. You cannot have natural conversations with a narcissist because they will always twist and guilt you over things you thought were innocent (a female trait.) Therefore having a conversation with one is nerve wracking. You also have to keep the narcissist perpetually entertained or else they ghost. They will also gossip behind your back in secret.

It's like when people say "Women want to date guys who have friends." Its more narcissist bs catering to gynocentric thought. What does it matter if he has friends? Love is centered around the person. it only matters if women are in it to socialmax, gain status, have parties, orbit other guys to cheat on him, etc. Women have no interest in the male himself, just what they can get out of the relationship. Laughable when bluepillers say men only care about sex. Women care more about looks and sexual charisma than men do, second, if a man is MGTOW and only uses women for sex, its because he's pilled and knows how toxic and utterly incapable of love that women are, why stick around for the abuse.
 

love

Femoid
lordoftheincels said:
love said:
its so long....is it worth reading?
I read half of it, then stopped because it was too grim and morbid. I don't like grim and morbid things. I'm more of a beast or dragon, I like reading stories about glory warfare, not creepy morbid ѕhit.
I read a lot of creepy morbid shit
 

AfricanCel

Incels.Net Master
Curiosity said:
lordoftheincels said:
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected.
Yeah, I talked about this in my earlier post ... it's kind of laughable actually. Did he just expect women to randomly knock at his door, asking if he was single? Did he also fail to realise that women usually wait for men to make the first move? They are pretty unlikely to approach you unless either they have some affiliation with you, you are famous, or they are drunk.
lordoftheincels said:
Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are..
23% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Narcissistic personality disorder is more common in men than women from what I've gathered.
you have to be joking curiosity. You really think men are more narcissistic than women? The proof is in the pudding dude. Just try talking to your average girl. Dating, courting, valentine's, makeup, wanting compliments, women also have this prince charming fantasy, entitlement to dates, doesn't care about what the guy wants but what he can do for her, i can keep on going with this. All of this is all in women's nature and you think men are more narcissistic? Look at the facts. Even pickup books admit how narcissistic women are.
 

love

Femoid
lordoftheincels said:
Curiosity said:
lordoftheincels said:
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected.
Yeah, I talked about this in my earlier post ... it's kind of laughable actually. Did he just expect women to randomly knock at his door, asking if he was single? Did he also fail to realise that women usually wait for men to make the first move? They are pretty unlikely to approach you unless either they have some affiliation with you, you are famous, or they are drunk.
lordoftheincels said:
Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are..
23% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Narcissistic personality disorder is more common in men than women from what I've gathered.
It's an agenda by the fake news media to criminalize masculinity and white knight females.

The real reality is that narcissism is a female trait. Most criminal males are feminine minded, called feeble minded many years ago. Criminality, narcissism, etc. is a trait in all males, it's cuck to have no ego and never get mad. The difference between regular males and narcissists is that regular males are self-aware, narcissists aren't. Narcissist males go home, yell at their wife, etc.

From what I can tell (in the real world) is that females are more narcissistic than males. Females are overly sensitive and you have to talk on eggshells around them. Everything in the dating life is centered around females. About how you have to impress a female, earn money for a female, entertain a female, treat a female good, make her happy, etc. The male is just a utilty

Females are giganarcissists that have brainwashed males with it to believe that females are less often narcissists. It's females that spend 5 hours a day in makeup, its females that emotionally manipulate males. Females guilt males and always spin a narrative that males are unworthy, and that a male must prove he isn't worthless. Males are viewed as worthless as the default. You cannot have natural conversations with a narcissist because they will always twist and guilt you over things you thought were innocent (a female trait.) Therefore having a conversation with one is nerve wracking. You also have to keep the narcissist perpetually entertained or else they ghost. They will also gossip behind your back in secret.

It's like when people say "Women want to date guys who have friends." Its more narcissist bs catering to gynocentric thought. What does it matter if he has friends? Love is centered around the person. it only matters if women are in it to socialmax, gain status, have parties, orbit other guys to cheat on him, etc. Women have no interest in the male himself, just what they can get out of the relationship. Laughable when bluepillers say men only care about sex. Women care more about looks and sexual charisma than men do, second, if a man is MGTOW and only uses women for sex, its because he's pilled and knows how toxic and utterly incapable of love that women are, why stick around for the abuse.

Obviously I disagree. Science proves that actually men have a higher rate of personality disorders and actually mental health disorders altogether. Most women aren’t narcissistic and you don’t have to walk on egg shells. There are women that are pretty down to earth and approachable again this has to do with social skills. What I have noticed is that a lot of incels come off as entitled, stuck up, snobby, standoff ish and guarded. I can’t tell if this was a result of bullying or actually a personality disorder. I have visited other incel forums where it is very clear there’s a high percentage of personality disorders. I find it interesting you think women have the personality disorder. I think actually many incels most likely have a personality disorder and aren’t aware of it since most aren’t aware of it.

Dating and mating is often centred around females in majority of animals. Spiders eat the male after they are finished mating with him so you know it could be worse. You could be eaten by a female.

5 hours is an exaggeration. I don’t wear make up every day but when i do it usually takes like 15 min.
 

love

Femoid
AfricanCel said:
Curiosity said:
lordoftheincels said:
Eliot Rodger wasn't a real incel, as from what I have gathered, he never tried to ask a woman out, thus was never rejected.
Yeah, I talked about this in my earlier post ... it's kind of laughable actually. Did he just expect women to randomly knock at his door, asking if he was single? Did he also fail to realise that women usually wait for men to make the first move? They are pretty unlikely to approach you unless either they have some affiliation with you, you are famous, or they are drunk.
lordoftheincels said:
Friendly reminder that 99% of women are narcissists and only 10% of males are..
23% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Narcissistic personality disorder is more common in men than women from what I've gathered.
you have to be joking curiosity. You really think men are more narcissistic than women? The proof is in the pudding dude. Just try talking to your average girl. Dating, courting, valentine's, makeup, wanting compliments, women also have this prince charming fantasy, entitlement to dates, doesn't care about what the guy wants but what he can do for her, i can keep on going with this. All of this is all in women's nature and you think men are more narcissistic? Look at the facts. Even pickup books admit how narcissistic women are.
Everyone wants compliments and validation even men. Are you telling me you don’t want compliments?

Prince Charming is integrated into literally everything. All Disney movies have a prince with a perfect ending. Barbies have ken who is a prince. Books all have princes. Everything little girls see, hear and play with have a prince. It’s a fairy tail. It’s what every girl wants because it’s perfect. What girl doesn’t want the perfect fairytale guy? I do.
 
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