Employers biased against Incels?

lordoftheincels

Well-Known Member
Staff Member
Lounge member
StoicNihilist said:
Oh hell yeah. Employers are biased as hell against ugly or otherwise undesirable people. I've been called in for interviews, but as soon as they saw how ugly I am they cut the interview short and I never got a call back. I've gotten jobs before where my coworkers just straight up hated working with me. I was never rude or said anything bad to them. They could just tell I am a pathetic ugly incel and talked the boss into getting me "managed out". If you dont know what that is, its where they basically fuck with you so much and make working there so miserable you quit.
Overpopulation is to blame, too many people can do the same job equally, so they will pick a good looking person to do the job 9 times out of 10.
Nojudgement said:
lordoftheincels said:
I think you are right tbh. Tried to get a job before, more than one time. It was super-competitive, just like the dating arena. Had to compete with dozens of other women and men.

I like old fashioned competition like in games, natural competition based on personal talent. I don't like artificial competition where its a fake competition where you have to hope to get randomly selected by some asshole.

Even worse is when they choose you based on an algorithm, making you take those long computerized tests where they ask invasive questions about your personality.
I've definitely heard it's a tough game getting into some parts of the job market. Competition is real. What makes you say it's a fake competition though?

Also, if the algorithms are trying to figure out personality as it relates to team work and interaction, which are key in 95%+ of jobs, then how is that going against natural competition? Skills and talents should include anything that relates to the job, some of which are specific 'hard' skills (like programming, finance, maths, whatever) and some are 'soft' skills (leadership, teamwork, facilitation, negotiation etc.). All those skills are what people use to compete for the jobs that need them.

I grant you that the algorithm programming may be something that you could question or argue against, but the principle behind it is valid, even if it's a pretty soulless way to thin out the candidates.
Rupaul is fake competition. Lion in nature is real competition. Peacock even is more real than RuPaul.

RuPaul is a competition between males, where a fag who (supposedly) is not attracted to women, determines how beautiful of a woman you are. Completely arbitrary and determined based on how well you can suck up to the fag.

Lion in nature determined by how good of a fighter you are, how far you are willing to take it. Everything is determined by your skill, talent, direct, physical actions. If you can win at a fight you win the women. This is nature, skill based, talent based.

Peacocks is more similar to RuPaul, but it is still more objective than RuPaul. The most flamboyant peacock wins the girls. This is not arbitrary or determined by a fag.
 

Nojudgement

Well-Known Member
I have no idea how what you said relates to getting work. Hiring is not done by transvestite TV personalities...

In the majority of cases I've seen and those of my colleagues (we're in the business of HR, training and recruitment) people hire for skill. Prove you're the best and most competitive candidate, you're chosen.

This seems like real competition, which is what you were talking about.
 

lordoftheincels

Well-Known Member
Staff Member
Lounge member
Nojudgement said:
I have no idea how what you said relates to getting work. Hiring is not done by transvestite TV personalities...

In the majority of cases I've seen and those of my colleagues (we're in the business of HR, training and recruitment) people hire for skill. Prove you're the best and most competitive candidate, you're chosen.

This seems like real competition, which is what you were talking about.
The topic was about lookist discrimination.

Not about norman defending Marxist fake equality where people are judged over looks.
 

Nojudgement

Well-Known Member
It was about hiring and finding work. Looks do exist in bias, which I've never disputed and is supported by research.

Stating that you're not hired because you're ugly/incel when the decision is made based on the best skills and experience (i.e natural competition, which you prefer) seems very inaccurate.

Discussion of looks bias is another topic
 

lordoftheincels

Well-Known Member
Staff Member
Lounge member
Nojudgement said:
It was about hiring and finding work. Looks do exist in bias, which I've never disputed and is supported by research.

Stating that you're not hired because you're ugly/incel when the decision is made based on the best skills and experience (i.e natural competition, which you prefer) seems very inaccurate.

Discussion of looks bias is another topic
You're treading on thin ice bro. Inb4 tremor bans u. Maybe some caffeine will help clear your mind and see things more clearly.
 

tremor

Well-Known Member
Staff Member
Lounge member
Nojudgement said:
Discussion of looks bias is another topic
Discussion of looks bias is almost any topic of this forum in one way or another.
 

Nojudgement

Well-Known Member
lordoftheincels said:
You're treading on thin ice bro. Inb4 tremor bans u. Maybe some caffeine will help clear your mind and see things more clearly.
I don't understand what the thin ice relates to. I was trying to get a handle on what you meant by natural competition and why the hiring market is not (generally) an example of natural competition. I agree (again) that looks bias is a real thing, but I don't see much evidence of its impact on hiring decisions based on my experience and knowledge.

Perhaps I've misunderstood what you meant by natural competition as my experience of hiring has always been relatively fair in that the most qualified or skilled candidates are hired. Did you mean something else?
 

albie

Well-Known Member
BANNED
reg509 said:
I'm 19 living with my parents and have never had a job yet. Believe me it's not for a lack of trying. Jobs seem to be as elusive to me as women. I'm not joking. I was thinking about it earlier and I've realised that finding a job is just as rigged against people like us as finding a date is. All the applications I've filled out all have one thing in common. Those dumb survey style personal questions that try to determine how you think and what kind of person you are. They're the reason I haven't got a job yet, because I'm too honest when I answer those damned questions.

No I am not a positive thinking energetic normie who can put on a convincing smile for the customer and pretend I'm not living in hell. No I am not comfortable working with femoids who would taunt and discriminate against me like all the others do, yet if I retaliate in the slightest way I'll surely be fired, sued or both. No I do not care about coworkers or their personal problems, they wouldn't care about me or mine, just like everyone else in my entire life. In 20 years I see myself dead for the past 19 years.

They say it doesn't matter how you answer, but I've become certain that answering no on certain questions automatically voids your application. People talk so much about employers not being able to discriminate who they hire based on things like religion, race, gender, well why is it acceptable to discriminate based on social status? How am I supposed to "improve myself" when I can't make any money? How am I supposed to "start at the bottom and work my way up" when I can't even get a chance at the bottom?

This system is tuly rigged against us. That's why on my latest application I choked out my soul and swallowed any self respect I had for long enough to answer the questions the way they want me to. "I try to be positive and receptive to other people" "I see myself working a long and prosperous career with your company" etc. Maybe this will be the one.
You should be on pills.We all should be on pills. They should pay us not to work. So they don't have to look at us. They should pay for our wifi so we can stay in all day and never be seen.
 

lordoftheincels

Well-Known Member
Staff Member
Lounge member
albie said:
You should be on pills.We all should be on pills. They should pay us not to work. So they don't have to look at us. They should pay for our wifi so we can stay in all day and never be seen.
They do. It's called neetbux. Of course, they never pay enough so that neets can become normans and escape incel, which would give them the motivation to be contributing members of society. Of course, theres no hope for truecels, only hope for incels, normans, and failed normans. Chads don't need hope. See my incel definitions thread in the Quality Central section.
 

Nojudgement

Well-Known Member
Or you could get work that pays well and doesn't require you to go outside. I know some people who edit documents, write websites, do graphic design, program podcasts and a bunch more things all from home. They make money and speak to their clients entirely through email plus occasional phone calls.

They can make pretty sweet money too. One guy doing basic web design was getting $30+ an hour while not needing to leave his front room. Others are probably getting more.

Plus it sounds a lot more interesting than just sitting around...
 

EyeH8me

Active Member
Everything in life is a lie. You need to lie to get anywhere. Stop being honest and not feel bad about answering those questions dishonestly. Lie to get laid. Lie to get a job. Lie to get out of trouble. Lie for everything. It’s highly overrated. I’ve lied so much I have no clue who I even am anymore. I’ve lied so much I actually believe my own bullshit.
 

ralpeg

Well-Known Member
BANNED
reg509 said:
No I am not a positive thinking energetic normie who can put on a convincing smile for the customer and pretend I'm not living in hell.
You are not failing for benig honest, you are failing for being you and applying for that job.

I don't think you are suited to that kind of job.

I know you're not a programmer, but a programmer may get a similar result as you if applying for that job. The personality of a programmer isn't good for meeting and greeting customers, and you may have that kind of personality. It won't help you to lie about it.

You wouldn't get rejected from some kind of basic technician type job, on the basis of you not being a positive energetic smiling normie. (and being a positive energetic normie might even work against you in that kind of job!)

You are only 19. You should think a bit about A)what your IQ is and B)what jobs are suited to your kind of personality.

I saw a job advert a while back for forklift truck driver.. I didn't go for it but it sounded appealing! Your personality would not be a problem in that job.. Actually, it might be, but far less of a problem than it would be in a customer-facing job.
 

theincelcrowd

New Member
Nojudgement said:
theincelcrowd said:
I am in the same boat as you right now, I'm searching for a job right now but I get stuck when they all ask for things like work experience or hobbies. I don't do much outside of school because I struggle to get along with many of the others in my age range. What could I do to fill this blank in my resume. My parents are really pressuring me to get a job so I will take any advice
In this case, you can always go for some basic things that are pretty easy to fake or do alone.

E.g.
- I love reading (XYZ genres)
- I enjoy music
- I appreciate films

Then if they even ask about it, you can talk a bit about what things you prefer and then go on from there. Unless you put something really weird or interesting on there, I think most interviews won't bring it up.
Thanks I'll try this out
 

henry1999

Member
reg509 said:
This system is tuly rigged against us. That's why on my latest application I choked out my soul and swallowed any self respect I had for long enough to answer the questions the way they want me to. "I try to be positive and receptive to other people" "I see myself working a long and prosperous career with your company" etc. Maybe this will be the one.
That's the only way to do it, unfortunately. You just have to comply with their ideals. I've had to lie about myself, my family, my background, my personality, everything. It's fuсking bollocks.
 

StoicNihilist

Well-Known Member
Lounge member
lordoftheincels said:
StoicNihilist said:
Oh hell yeah. Employers are biased as hell against ugly or otherwise undesirable people. I've been called in for interviews, but as soon as they saw how ugly I am they cut the interview short and I never got a call back. I've gotten jobs before where my coworkers just straight up hated working with me. I was never rude or said anything bad to them. They could just tell I am a pathetic ugly incel and talked the boss into getting me "managed out". If you dont know what that is, its where they basically fuck with you so much and make working there so miserable you quit.
Overpopulation is to blame, too many people can do the same job equally, so they will pick a good looking person to do the job 9 times out of 10.

I agree entirely. Why hire an ugly pathetic excuse for a man when there are 80 Chad's and Stacies in the application pile competing for the same job? The answer is they don't.

I dont think people understand that incels aren't just fucked in terms of getting intimacy or relationships, we are fucked when it comes to getting jobs or pretty much anything else in general. So much success in life at least here in modern first world society depends on beauty and looks.
 

Penelope

Femoid
Even though I come from an entirely different perspective on this and can’t give advice from experience, I did get hired for a summer job a lot earlier than the other employees, so I got to witness a lot of the interviews and different types of people that would come in.

The idea that the employers want the guys applying to act like total dogs reporting to an owner is extremely accurate, especially when the employer or interviewer is a woman like mine was. While closing her office door, she would always make signs to me at the cash, signifying whether or not she had hope for the person coming in. She would purposely make herself late to the interviews so that her admin could take time to vet out the guys and to test their patience. If there were any guys who seemed slightly agitated, understood that their time was more important than waiting for a self-important manager with a feminism complex, or took up too much of what she called ‘presence’ in the room they didn’t stand a chance.

Guys were always worse off for hire, as all summer she only hired one actual guy, and he catered to basically every demand she had, no matter how ridiculous. It got to the point where he even went over and painted her fridge for her on one of his days off. Watching this happen really opened my eyes to all of this and sort of blackpilled me. I say that employers are definitely biased against Incels, especially if they’re women, bonus points if the girls have progressive complexes and their husbands are cucked hipster drones.
 
Top