UnDinkstered
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UnDinkstered
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So I've thought about making a list of arguments against abortion from myself, and pro for those, that I've heard from people, and decided to also counterargue them, and then upload here to everyone to see and think about it. And also to make the topics a bit more diverse and thoughtful, and make me, and hopefully, others stop thinking about ourselves, but more of the issues of the world, educational cope you could say.
And also, I've seen some people talk about abortion here, albeit only barely, and at best in one or two sentences or topics made by females that just sucked.
Side A | Against the Abortion | Arguments:
1. Abortion is murder.
2. Abortion hurts society integrity.
3. Abortion has psychological effects upon the mother who aborted and her family.
4. Abortion is very bad during the demographic crisis.
5. Abortion goes against traditional values.
6. Abortion goes against religious values.
6a. Abortion is considered a sin.
7. Abortion challenges the moral system, it goes against the moral code.
7a. Abortion undermines the status of "Life" on the top of the moral pyramid.
Side B | Pro Abortion | Arguments:
1. Abortion is a women right/freedom. It is their body, their choice.
2. Women who are pregnant and aiming for a career and are in danger of risking their career, either by stagnation or complete resignation after childbirth, thus, we should allow Abortion to help these women.
3. The fetus isn't considered human and/or alive, therefore, it is merely an extension of the body, so such an act would be considered at worst mutilation of self.
Side A | Against the Abortion | Counterarguments:
1. Abortion is evil, it is bad. To give it a right is as if you were to give a person, a right to kill someone else. Not all rights are good. Many rights can, and often are wrong, bad, they shouldn't be even considered to be legalized. They either hurt the person or, people around the person who does commit such an act. Often, it is globally accepted, that the very minimum for rights, is as long as it doesn't infringe anyone else's rights, and so, abortion can be argued, that it does infringe the right of a child to live, which under that standard, would be considered bad, unlawful. Also, humans shouldn't have absolute freedom, or either too many rights. Having absolute freedom leads to anarchy and chaos, and knowingly, if one person has absolute freedom, then that person has freedom, to limit someone else's freedom. And so, by that, abortion shouldn't be considered a legal right.
2. Women who are pregnant and are working hard in their education/employment facilities instead of aborting can leave their children in Nurseries after birth. Plus, when we're talking about employment facilities women have maternity leave so that they can set all required necessities up within that period of time. In education, pregnant women can go to lessons and learn even while being pregnant. If things are bad, schools often are able to send private teachers to houses of those who are pregnant and really are unable to attend the lessons, and if schools can't, then they should be funded to be able to do so. Third, women who are pregnant should have partners, so that their partner can help them with their pregnancy, and later on, with their child. In case of not having a partner, for example, because he left, you can sue him for money to support your child. Pregnancy isn't a crisis, it is a beautiful period that is supported by many, including schools and workplaces, and in fact, are required to do so by law. Pregnant women also gain special privileges, such as being unable to be fired from workplaces during the pregnancy and maternity term. Also, life is on the top of the pyramid of priorities, job is below it, as life requires to be on top to have a healthy society that doesn't engage in violence, murder, and general chaos, for reference, see LA riots, these riots in principle had to abandon life as the top of the pyramid, and instead replace it with their own goals.
3. The fetus isn't considered as a person by egoistic individuals who are irresponsible and not taught properly how to perform in a society. The fetus is considered a human being since conception. Yes, they are human. The moment conception happens, the moment a fetus starts developing, and the fetus grows into a child we usually see after birth, there is no invisible barrier between X and Y period of time during the growth of the fetus to consider a fetus human, and not human. As the fetus is able to develop itself independently* and grow into a toddler, child, and finally, an adult. It is merely the first stage of human being growth and should be treated as such. The argument that it is part of the body does not make the destruction of a living organism, a human, justifiable. Life is on the top of the ladder through priorities. If there was a human condition that when twins are born and are morphed into one body that shares both souls, would it be an argument for one of those twins to kill the other because he is the part of his body? Of course not, because they are both alive, and the other twin also has the right to live, and so should fetuses.
* - Independently as of without any artificial influence, only natural occurrence, which in this case is pregnancy, and also, accepting the conditions such as consuming nutrition, which everyone requires to develop and to exist, and so, a fetus shouldn't be excluded, because not only is it unjust, it is reasonable to divide when living organism regardless require nutrition to live.
Well, what do you think?
And also, I've seen some people talk about abortion here, albeit only barely, and at best in one or two sentences or topics made by females that just sucked.
Side A | Against the Abortion | Arguments:
1. Abortion is murder.
2. Abortion hurts society integrity.
3. Abortion has psychological effects upon the mother who aborted and her family.
4. Abortion is very bad during the demographic crisis.
5. Abortion goes against traditional values.
6. Abortion goes against religious values.
6a. Abortion is considered a sin.
7. Abortion challenges the moral system, it goes against the moral code.
7a. Abortion undermines the status of "Life" on the top of the moral pyramid.
Side B | Pro Abortion | Arguments:
1. Abortion is a women right/freedom. It is their body, their choice.
2. Women who are pregnant and aiming for a career and are in danger of risking their career, either by stagnation or complete resignation after childbirth, thus, we should allow Abortion to help these women.
3. The fetus isn't considered human and/or alive, therefore, it is merely an extension of the body, so such an act would be considered at worst mutilation of self.
Side A | Against the Abortion | Counterarguments:
1. Abortion is evil, it is bad. To give it a right is as if you were to give a person, a right to kill someone else. Not all rights are good. Many rights can, and often are wrong, bad, they shouldn't be even considered to be legalized. They either hurt the person or, people around the person who does commit such an act. Often, it is globally accepted, that the very minimum for rights, is as long as it doesn't infringe anyone else's rights, and so, abortion can be argued, that it does infringe the right of a child to live, which under that standard, would be considered bad, unlawful. Also, humans shouldn't have absolute freedom, or either too many rights. Having absolute freedom leads to anarchy and chaos, and knowingly, if one person has absolute freedom, then that person has freedom, to limit someone else's freedom. And so, by that, abortion shouldn't be considered a legal right.
2. Women who are pregnant and are working hard in their education/employment facilities instead of aborting can leave their children in Nurseries after birth. Plus, when we're talking about employment facilities women have maternity leave so that they can set all required necessities up within that period of time. In education, pregnant women can go to lessons and learn even while being pregnant. If things are bad, schools often are able to send private teachers to houses of those who are pregnant and really are unable to attend the lessons, and if schools can't, then they should be funded to be able to do so. Third, women who are pregnant should have partners, so that their partner can help them with their pregnancy, and later on, with their child. In case of not having a partner, for example, because he left, you can sue him for money to support your child. Pregnancy isn't a crisis, it is a beautiful period that is supported by many, including schools and workplaces, and in fact, are required to do so by law. Pregnant women also gain special privileges, such as being unable to be fired from workplaces during the pregnancy and maternity term. Also, life is on the top of the pyramid of priorities, job is below it, as life requires to be on top to have a healthy society that doesn't engage in violence, murder, and general chaos, for reference, see LA riots, these riots in principle had to abandon life as the top of the pyramid, and instead replace it with their own goals.
3. The fetus isn't considered as a person by egoistic individuals who are irresponsible and not taught properly how to perform in a society. The fetus is considered a human being since conception. Yes, they are human. The moment conception happens, the moment a fetus starts developing, and the fetus grows into a child we usually see after birth, there is no invisible barrier between X and Y period of time during the growth of the fetus to consider a fetus human, and not human. As the fetus is able to develop itself independently* and grow into a toddler, child, and finally, an adult. It is merely the first stage of human being growth and should be treated as such. The argument that it is part of the body does not make the destruction of a living organism, a human, justifiable. Life is on the top of the ladder through priorities. If there was a human condition that when twins are born and are morphed into one body that shares both souls, would it be an argument for one of those twins to kill the other because he is the part of his body? Of course not, because they are both alive, and the other twin also has the right to live, and so should fetuses.
* - Independently as of without any artificial influence, only natural occurrence, which in this case is pregnancy, and also, accepting the conditions such as consuming nutrition, which everyone requires to develop and to exist, and so, a fetus shouldn't be excluded, because not only is it unjust, it is reasonable to divide when living organism regardless require nutrition to live.
Well, what do you think?
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